1999P double chin nickel

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by treasuresmcd, Dec 26, 2011.

  1. treasuresmcd

    treasuresmcd New Member

    i found this one going thru a roll of nickels the other morning. there is doubling in in the date and all letters obverse and doubling on most letters reverse. is it a double die?
    double chin.jpg 1999P DD obverse.jpg 1999P DDD reverse.jpg DDD reverse.jpg DD obverse 1.jpg
     
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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It appears to be machine doubling (also called mechanical doubling or strike doubling). If the doubled letters and/or numbers appear to be flat and shelf-like, it is machine doubling.

    Chris
     
  4. treasuresmcd

    treasuresmcd New Member

    Thanks Chris,
    all the lettering has the flat shelf but the chin looks rounded, i guess i hoping for a keeper.

    Duane
     
  5. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Maybbe this bust was made while Jefferson was fat ;)
    But in all seriousness, I think it may be machine doubling.
     
  6. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    Just a bit of strike doubling on Jefferson's profile.

    Nothing too special... Sorry. :dismay:

    Keeping looking! You oughta find a "keeper" sooner-or-later! :)

    Ohh, and :welcome: to CoinTalk!

    -Brian
     
  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Duane,

    What leads me to believe that the chin is also machine doubling is because it is directly across from the (obvious) machine doubling on the bottom side of "GOD". You have to understand that machine doubling occurs when the die vibrates rapidly back and forth as it is withdrawing after striking the planchet.

    Chris
     
  8. treasuresmcd

    treasuresmcd New Member

    ten four,

    thank you
     
  9. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    I would'nt toss it.
     
  10. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    No way, 5 cents is 5 cents, spend it. ;)
     
  11. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    Ahem ...

    I beg to differ. As we type, I have a coin on my scanner from the same die. Now whose name gets first billing on the variety when both send these in?
     

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  12. AWORDCREATED

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    more angles
     

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  13. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    Here is the reverse of mine and some highlights of where things look as if they come from the same error die set.
     

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  14. gunnovice09

    gunnovice09 Nothing

    A word created, not every coin you look at is an error.
     
  15. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    LOL! did you take a close look at his coin and mine? Same die error.
     
  16. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Mechanical doubling can appear on more coins than one. That does not mean that it is a doubled die. If you want to submit it, be my guest...just don't be surprised if it comes back as not a doubled die. If you think that 2 coins that have similar doubling are automatically a doubled die, then I have a bunch of 1969-S "DDOs" for you.;)
    You should read up on the differences between a doubled die and other forms of doubling, before going and declaring that you have a discovery piece. JMHO.
     
  17. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    You are the one yammering on about "doubled die". I claim 2 things so far: error and that these two coins were struck with the same die. Do you not agree with me?
     
  18. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Because the coins are doubled and you claim them to be from the same die, as well as your comment regarding sending it in, I thought the implied meaning was it is a doubled die. There really isn't any other error or variety on modern coinage with consistent doubling on multiple coins with a claim that they are from the same die. Therefore, the only "explanation" left that I picked up from your post would be doubled die.
    That being said, the coin is not a doubled die. It has common mechanical doubling, and the placement as well as occurring on the same date is purely coincidental.
     
  19. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    I agree. Both of these coins are normal and have some MD going on.
     
  20. AWORDCREATED

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    I had occasion to hi rez today, and in paint brush if I invert the image colors I see better. What do you see this way?
     

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  21. AWORDCREATED

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    I also tried this with the other guys coin, as is it turns out I now have the bigger photos :p yet ...
     

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