Greetings and Happy Holidays to all: I was going through coins i purchased at an estate sale and came across 5 wisconsin quarters with the same marks. I am very new to numis numista...coin collecting. I am quessing it s a die crack. Any and all help is appreciated. I should clarify what i mean. to the left of the cow just above ribbon EDIT:I am more awake now and have noticed more. After inspecting the coins against those that look like they should, i could see distortions under the "R"s in the ribbon. noticeable in a zoom of the scan. Again only on the same 5 coins.
That's interesting! Sure looks like a die clash to me, but I'm no variety expert. One thing I can tell you is that it is most likely not a "die crack"... Die cracks typically exhibit abrupt shifts in direction and/or changes in width or thickness, but who knows... Definitely not me. Let's wait for a few more opinions... -Brian
I think this may be a partial lamination rather than a clash. There isn't anything on the other side with that kind of curvature. It also doesn't have the look of a die crack, as Brian mentioned.
The odds of five coins having planchet defects on the same face (reverse) and all in the exact same location would be extremely low. The anomaly is obviously on the die that struck the coins (because, per the OP, they all have the identical anomaly).
Read your write-up before the edit. Though, I'll make no rebuttal... Partially because I don't remember exactly what was written, and partially because I don't understand exactly what you were implying. :goofer: -Brian
I was really going off of what I was seeing, without considering what the OP had said. My mistake on that. =) The first time I had written that die cracks sometimes just sit there without affecting the surfaces around them and that it takes a major die crack to shift other features vertically or horizontally. Then I realized I read your post wrong and you meant the characteristics of the crack itself, not an effect on the coin around it. Sorry dude!
I did not intend to imply that I do not believe you. My post was to point out that the anomaly was caused by the die that struck the coins, not the planchets as another poster had stated.
Mind sharing with us the scans of your other coins? Are you saying they all exhibit the same anomaly? EDIT: Just noticed additional scans have already been provided. No worries. -Brian
no offense taken I want to give as much info as possible. The more i read the more i undrstand everyones statements
I am no expert, or have any knowledge in errors, but my two verdigris-ridden 1989 cents say that looks to be genuine. Cool find, I would suggest sending pictures to somebody who really knows their errors, because again referring to my '89 cents, that looks like a die gouge?
Yea that's interesting. All five have an extra vertical line just across from the error area as well. I still don't see what there is on the other side of the die that could cause this shape in a clash though.
Hey, moos! Welcome to the neighborhood. Does the mark appear to have a slight bulge to it? If so, it may be the onset of a die break. You should know that the image of the cow (device) on the die is incuse (recessed) and the edge is like a canyon wall. Like with the canyon wall, breaks occur most often near the edge of the drop-off. I had a lot of the CA SQ's where I saw slight bulges like this, and in one instance, I actually found a coin where the bulge became a full-blown die break. The photo attached is that of John Muir's hat on the CA SQ. I was searching a Mint bag and came across several that showed a slight bulge in the field just above the back of the brim, and then I found this one where the die metal had finally broken away. Chris
Chris That is an excellent description of what it looks like. Your idea sounds like what happened here. I would like to thank everyone on their input on the matter. Off to work now, i'll be back later. Frank