Black on V-Nickel.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Detecto92, Dec 16, 2011.

  1. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    I have a V-Nickel with some kind of black substance on it.

    It's in a few places, but it borders some of the stars, and its filled inside the centers of the date.


    I tried using a dremel with a soft plastic brush tip with soapy water. It did nothing.


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  3. Augustine1992

    Augustine1992 Member

    I have a mercury dime with the same kind of stuff on it, except its everywhere. I just left it on there cause it defines the coin.
     

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  4. dsmith23

    dsmith23 Gotta get 'em all

    I tried using a dremel with a soft plastic brush tip with soapy water. It did nothing.

    :eek:
     
  5. Taxidermist

    Taxidermist Collector of US/IL/RU/DE

    This substance is whatever covered the coin before it was cleaned. Can be natural patina, dirt, chemicals, rust etc.
     
  6. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    It looks like someone before you did a pretty severe cleaning job to get it to that point. I spent a lot of time practicing various cleaning techniques on throw-away coins. I've had some nice results with silver coins, but not so much with nickel or copper coins. In fact, you can do some real damage to nickel, copper or clad coins if you try what works on silver.

    BADTHAD sells a product called VERDI-CARE™ that does a nice job (imo) preserving copper coins. I haven't tried his product on nickel coins. I would recommend you read up on the topic and not be afraid to experiment...as long as it's, as I say, only on "throw-away" coins.

    Good Luck! :thumb:
     
  7. DW-coins

    DW-coins Slave to coins...

    It's a combination of pocket lint, skin cells, dirt, grease, oil, and smudge that has become partially petrified in the nooks and crannies of your coin. It's common to uncleaned circ coins and the chances are good you'll muck the coin up before you'll get that gunge off.
     
  8. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    That's a very good way to ruin a coin.
     
  9. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    I would never clean anything like a proof or a real smoothed surface coin like that.

    I've done it plenty of times, even looked at it under a scope. Can't tell any different. There are already tons of micro scratches from circulation.
     
  10. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Possible I might not be able to tell either, but there are others that probably can. At the same time there are others that use different techniques safely that I would not try myself. There is another person around here uses sharp soft green rose thorns to clean out dirt on device. I tried it on a modern pocket change coin and it was way to much work to really get the dirt out.
     
  11. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I'll bet the entire coin looked just like that before it was scrubbed.

    I'll wager it's toning that has progressed into corrosion.
     
  12. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Here is something that I don't think will harm the coin that you can try. Coat the surface liberally with a coating of White Glue (Elmers or something like that). Let it dry thoroughly. Peel off the glue as one layer and if you are lucky, the grunge will stick to the glue. I have seen this done for LP records and it performs miracles. Other suggestion, soak in Xylene or acetone.
     
  13. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    If you would like, I have an industrial use belt sander you can borrow to get that crud off.
     
  14. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Rethinking my Elmer's glue post, if you try this (and I think I might) clean off any residue with acetone and water.
     
  15. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Try it with some pocket change first. I am not sure it will work. When that dirt gets into the devices it can be very tough to get out - from what I have read.
     
  16. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    You used a what on the coin? A Dremel?

    Sorry...I don't mean to insult. But if the coin was junk before then, it is probably no worse now.
    Lance.
     
  17. zach24

    zach24 DNSO 7070 71 pct complete

    Please tell me the last digit in "188?" is not a 5 or a 6...
     
  18. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Elmer's Glue?

    Is responding to yourself like talking to yourself? Anyway, if I suggest it, I should try it. I grabbed a couple of coins that were laying around and scanned them. I then applied a coat of Elmer's School Glue (a standard white glue) and let it dry overnight and peeled it. Here are the results:
    glue test 1.jpg first peel.jpg
    I am getting ready to take a trip, but I put a heavy coat on the coins and will let it dry for a couple of weeks.
     
  19. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    It's an 1883 Without cents.
     
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