As much as I hate to do this (do I really mean that?), I think what you've quoted from rascal is that he is completely right about that. The OP actually gave all the info that is needed to answer the questions: Who found it? Did you open the roll? they are quite well off, 86 and have absolutely no reason to fabricate it. (Later on, the OP insinuates it's his/her trusted grandparents, and so no the OP could not have opened the roll. If the grandparents are 86 now, they would have been about about age 18 then. Also the OP says the coin was not found in a roll in the box, it was separated and put in an envelope by itself; the envelope was taped to the bottom of the box). Do you have the other 49 steelies from this roll? they didn't even know they still had it because it was left in a small envelope, taped on the bottom of a cigar box in a safe for over 50 years! (so no, they would not likely have the other steelies, though it wasn't said, and he did not state that they or the mint wrapping was kept. OP rather, through this story, leaves it to be thought that this is the only one that is there, and was only found by chance because of how it was saved. OP also insinuates due to the story told by the grandparents, who would not fabricate a story, that all is true.) If it really was a "mint issued roll" it would contain only 1943's. Of course, but this isn't a question, and the OP did not state or insinuate the coin came with other years in the roll. Do you still have the wrapper? If you do, please post a photo of it. I don't see the OP having anything except the coin, the envelope, and the tape on the envelope based on the post. Nothing else can be assumed. I think if he had the original wrapper, then the OP would have already bolstered the claims by producing that. From what I read, it seems he has the coin and the story. I don't even know if the supposed envelope and tape and box was "seen" by the poster, but perhaps became part of the story as to how it was acquired. How would a mint issued roll of '43's hang around a bank, unopened, for that many years? From the OP, the roll did not hang around the bank, unopened. It was the coin in an envelope that supposedly was there since 1943. My supposition is that regardless of the OP's feelings about the grandparents and them not lying, he discounted that circumstances around that coin might not exactly line up with "rememberances" that are told about 68 years later, by persons or people that supposedly haven't seen the item in the intervening years. The fact is, the coin itself doesn't conform to the story, in that it has apparent PMD and apparently a new surface (not mint issued).
You're right, Kasia. Apparently, when I wrote that, I didn't remember what I had read in the original post.
sorry to hurt your feelings again but I have to tell you that you or your group have never offended me. I am a grown man and I can take anything you all can dish out without it hurting my pride. I have a great family and lots of good friends and they are all I worry about. If you had read this thread I told the OP what they really had and these can be found in brand new bank rolls of coins.. Troy
When I saw this, I knew that rascal would respond and then someone would be sarcastic to him and he would respond with hurt statement about how he is an adult and doesn't have to defend himself from your attacks....yada yada. Rick, I think you were just trying to show how many unknowns (Rumsfield might say Unknown unknowns) there are here, but read it as if you were a newbie trying for full disclosure of what they believe to be true. Can you see how that it might be taken as insulting? I hope the OP didn't drop out of the thread, he might learn something.
ziggy9 that replated thing is one of the most hilarious things I have ever read on this CT forum. There is absolutely no way whatsoever that anyone can confirm this and truthfully say this coin is a replated coin from just looking at a image of it. unless someone thought it was supposed to be copper but the 43's were steel with zinc plating , the mint condition ones are extremelly bright and looks similar to chrome. I laughed so hard when I read what you wrote I almost fell out of my chair. any adult person that has ever took a photo of anything should be able to understand that the image from a digital camera can easily be fixed to look how you like it to look. coin photos are never exactly like the coin looks in hand. I wish some folks could lean that and let these coin photos stop tricking them. Troy
You sound like my type lady and I would probably ask you out on a date but darn it I'm already married. LOL
rascal, I have seen many uncirculated steelies and NONE of them had a shine like this one does. that is the problem with replated steelies. the people replating them used a different method of plating than the mint did and they turn out too shiney. You also don't bother addressing that the mint didn't roll their own coins in 1943 but sent them out in bags and the banks and distributers rolled them. The OP might just be repeating what he was told but the story doesn't ring true to the facts.
It don't think it would make any difference in how the coins ends up in the rolls. they could be damaged as they are counted while being put in the bags or when being counted to put in the rolls. If anyone looks thru very many new rolls of coins a damaged one can be found once in a while.
To be on the safe side, send it to CONECA then ANACS. PCGS and NGC do not grade ALL varieties and errors., or as many as does ANACS. anyway.