1749 Spanish 2 Reale (Mexico City)

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Bonedigger, May 19, 2006.

  1. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Here is my 1749 Mexico City 2 Reale. There is something odd with it (besides being worn), can you figure out what it is? GD already knows I believe.

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    Bone

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  3. YNcoinpro_U.S.

    YNcoinpro_U.S. New Member

    Not good with these, but the fact that it has a MM, or a date of 1749, or my last guess would be the absence of something above the crown on the dated side.
     
  4. bandito974

    bandito974 Senior Member

    whats it worth?
     
  5. rick

    rick Coin Collector

    the legend on the obverse is, I believe, more typically a 5 petal rosette stop & start. your legend begins and ends with a dot - which either makes it a convincing counterfeit (with I doubt, because of the typical off-centeredness of the reverse strike) or a sub variety. I don't have my reference books handy right now, so I don't know which.
     
  6. rick

    rick Coin Collector

    well... maybe - if that is a casting line on the reverse around 7 - 10:00.

    That may just be the photo, though
     
  7. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Your on the right track...

    B
     
  8. rick

    rick Coin Collector

    The only variety I see is FRD over PHS, but I don't see any evidence of that. If that's the variety you have, it's probably easier to spot in hand...

    and if that's the case - congrats, it's a pretty rare variety.
     
  9. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    GD's post back to me some time ago on the PCGS list...
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    There's a die crack that goes about 1/4 of the way around the coin - by VTRA. The coin was struck with rusty dies, which explains the roughness you can see around the rim. It was also a strike through error - the marks that you see going up through the center of the coin and under the Q. They are from a piece of string from a cloth that was used to try and clean the die before use - the string stuck to the die with the result that you see.

    I believe your coin is genuine. It shows quite a bit of wear though, so that hurts the value. But look closely at your coin as compared to mine. Notice the difference in how the obverse begins - yours has a pellet stop at the beginning and end. Mine has a floret stop at the same positions. My coin is a common variety - yours is a scarce variety.
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    It's only worthy about $75 in this worn condition though.

    Bone
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Geeeez Bone - that was a while ago ! How'd you ressurrect that thread from there ?

    But the surprising part is - that was YOU ?? :eek:
     
  11. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Chuckle, yep. It was a PM, I only had a couple. Actually, I prefer it here :D

    B
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Ya know this does bring up a good point - I have often wondered about many members on various sites and if I have run across them before under other names. Sometimes I notice similarities but I can never quite be sure. Not that it matters really, but it's just nice to know you're talking to the same person on 3 different sites at the same time :rolling:
     
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