2007 Jefferson Extra number Incuse of Edge

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by TTuck, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. TTuck

    TTuck New Member

    I've been told that raised letters on the edge are from coins bumping each other. I have found a Incuse 0 on the edge lettering that is not in line with the other letters - numbers. Is this still damage from a coin bumping it and leaving a depression, or something different? Thx 2007 Jefferson Dropped 0 0.jpg
     
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  3. cpm9ball

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    Hey, Tuck! From the title of your thread, I was expecting to see a Jefferson nickel rather than a Prez dollar. LOL! Edge lettering on a nickel? Yeah, right!

    Anyway, can you post a photo which shows the edge "head-on" rather than at an angle? It's hard for me to see any detail even after enlarging it.

    Chris
     
  4. TTuck

    TTuck New Member

    Thanks Chris. Here is the only other picture I took. I hope it is better. I took the first one from the severe angle so people would see that it is truely sunken in. Thanks again! 2007 Jefferson Dropped 0 #2.jpg
     
  5. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Looks like dropped letters. These occur when dies fill up with metal shavings and grease, then "drop" off the die and can get impressed into coins. These Presidential dollars are fairly notorious for them.
     
  6. TTuck

    TTuck New Member

    Thanks. I didn't realize this was so common. On to searching more. Thanks for your help.
     
  7. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I didn't say they weren't worth anything, though. The most I know about them was a couple of writeups about them in NN.
     
  8. TTuck

    TTuck New Member

    Thanks. So what do you guess the value is of this Dropped Letter/Number Error then?
     
  9. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Is the "0" perfectly circular? It seems that way from the first pic, but in the second pic it looks like part of it is thicker and not completely smoothly round.
     
  10. TTuck

    TTuck New Member

    I just took another pic for you. This one in head on. It looks round to me, but you be the judge.
    THX 2007 Jefferson Dropped 0 3.jpg
     
  11. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Scratchin' my head on this one. :scratch:
     
  12. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Dmitry, you don't think it could be from gOd or One just as easy as the date? I read that any part of the obverse or reverse die can get filled with an amalgam of grease and metal shavings, and fall off. These coins are more subject to show this since they have a unique collar, and reeding would obliterate this, but these coins aren't reeded.

    Chris
     
  13. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    I know, but I'm confused as to if it's a perfect 0 or if it's slightly mis-shaped. I guess it doesn't make a difference for a dropped filling, since it can have some extra material to make the dropped details imperfect.
     
  14. TTuck

    TTuck New Member

    Numismat. Do you think it is a Dropped Letter then?
     
  15. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Well, going by what I know of error coin in general I would have been doubtful. Personally I don't know much about the prez dollar series and the specifics of how they are struck. So, I'm inclined to believe what has been said by those who know more about it.
    It's a learning experience. =)
     
  16. CashDude

    CashDude Member

    Contact mark IMO. Probably from the date. I have seen several like this posted on here with various letters and numbers.
     
  17. mizozuman2

    mizozuman2 that random guy

    is that a MARLBORO cigarette box you took the 3rd picture on?
     
  18. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    How does one tell the difference? I would be curious if there is a way to know, since both would appear similar I assume.
     
  19. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Aren't you too young to be smoking? :too-cool-for:

    I'm guessing there would be differences under magnification. The contact mark should be more "sloppy" since it would have been done under much lower pressure than a dropped letter being struck in a die. The few verified examples of dropped letters I've seen look really crisp and sharp. That's why I was asking if it's perfectly round or imperfect.
     
  20. mizozuman2

    mizozuman2 that random guy

    i don't smoke, i just know what it looks like from the marlboro F1 car. :)
     
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