Can you take a quick look at the toning on this bust half?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by JCB1983, Dec 1, 2011.

  1. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    Call me a fool, but it is hard for me to tell sometimes if toning is natural or not. At first glance this half appears to be artificially toned, but if it's natural.. What a half. I asked the seller, and this was his response.


    " All natural toning, from an old album."


    I am not trying to pull the wool over anyone here, this is not PCGS slabbed.


    ~ Jason

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  3. HULLCOINS

    HULLCOINS Junior Member

    I'm sorry. If that is what the coin looks like than that is artificial. Either altered color or photo. It might have been dipped and retoned.
     
  4. HULLCOINS

    HULLCOINS Junior Member

    Plus it is circulated
     
  5. LindeDad

    LindeDad His Walker.

    Run Forest Run.....
     
  6. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Yep... that one screams artificial.
     
  7. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    Obviously dipped, so I say AT.
    Guy
     
  8. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    Best case scenario - re-toned after a dipping or cleaning. As or more likely - artificially toned. Either way, it looks extremely unnatural and I would avoid it.

    Additionally, the seller's response indicates that he is either unknowledgeable (and reckless in his response) or a liar.
     
  9. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    Yes, thank you very much. I am just not at the ability to judge toning at this point. If you asked me about Dutches Ike, I would say AT as well. Shows what I know. I'll just avoid toned for the time being. The guy sent me another message, reassuring that it was natural. Hmmm

    ~Jason
     
  10. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    Why not refer him to this thread, so that he can see what others think?
     
  11. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    Starts with a P something.. from Glenn Burnie MD. What a shame, that bust looks 55+ without the crap on it.
     
  12. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    It's not a bad looking piece as far as detail goes. Most of the capped bust halves you see will have been cleaned at some point, or more likely many times, so that shouldn't be an issue in deciding to buy. Just don't pay toning premiums for a an AT coin. If he'll sell at XF details pricing you'll be fine. It'll retone naturally over time anyway.
    Guy
     
  13. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    Dipped and retoned, artificially. Here's an NT 1832.
    Lance.

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  14. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    Love the toning on the reverse, Lance!
    Guy
     
  15. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    What would you pay for the coin in my picture?
     
  16. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I wouldn't buy it at any price. Either you would have to dip it again losing further luster, or live with the AT. Either way its now a problem coin that could never be slabbed. I would say save your money for a problem free coin. Its one of the most common CBH's so its not like it will be hard to find a nice one.

    If you did buy it I would find someone who knows what they are doing and get a quick dip to remove the toning. Then put it in a manila envelope and let it lightly tone naturally.

    Chris
     
  17. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    ok I'll pass on this one. He waned 345. Thanks
     
  18. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    That's $30 over AU money from the latest NN. Crazy.

    Btw do you want the latest NN to use as a approximate price guide? I can mail it to you. PM me if you want it.

    Chris
     
  19. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    Much appreciated, PM sent.
     
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