Anyone here bidding on an 1857 Flying Eagle? Check out this auction...

A regular listing will allow you to see how many times the current bidder has bid in the past on the sellers items, although that doesn't tell you much when some sellers have the same buyers over and over.

 

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This is why I don't think Ill ever end up feeling safe buying from ebay...
To be honest its still a really Good looking coin IMO

 

It also doesn't allow other people to see the item details from the feedback page. Though people can just avoid leaving feedback in the first place if they are concerned with privacy. It's a feature that does more harm than good, but certain sellers find it "convenient".

 

Here's one that hasn't been cleaned... (on eBay right now)

STUNNING!


For comparision:

 

Private listings prevent other EBay members from learning whom the winning bidder is and contacting him to warn/inform him.

 

"This listing was ended by the seller because the item was sold."

Heh. Or perhaps a few too many people asked him pointed questions...

 

In this particular case, the images from the earlier listing seem to confirm that the coin has indeed been cleaned (and that the second seller is probably a lowlife).

But what if the original seller was mistaken and the coin hasn't been cleaned?

My point is, the fact that one owner of a coin offers it as a problem coin and a subsequent seller does not, doesn't automatically make the second seller wrong or a scammer.

In many instances, the top grading companies have no-graded a coin the first time through, and upon re-submission, graded it as problem free.

As I have repeated a number of times over the years, often, the decision whether to grade or no-grade a coin can be as subjective and inconsistent as the decision regarding what numerical grade to assign.

 

This coin was pretty obvious once you looked.
The hairline scratching is serious.

 

I may be late in reporting, but I just did.

 

I would have to see better photos or have in hand. I thought there was a very good chance that the lines were polish lines rather than a cleaning, They all seem to halt when they come to a device rather than go over it. I would be hesitant to accuse the second seller without better evidence. IMO.

Jim

 

Nice profit! Anytime you can triple your money scamming an eBayer, that's a good day! ...

Please note the winking emoticon above. ^ ^ ^

-Brian

 

Did anyone do a "see other items" on the seller? All of his coins have some sort of PMD or alterations to them. I like how he tries to market "recolored" as a positive thing.

 

sheez is all I can say about this

 

nice profit

 

But eBay changed that a while ago Mark... now you cannot contact bidders (or winners), as their ID's are concealed. This was done because eBay was concerned about auction interference and spamming. A few years ago the CFe group was able to warn bidders/winners if they were bidding on a fake or altered coin... now the bidders are on their own.

 

I have never seen mint made die polish lines like that on a Flying Eagle Cent. I am confident the lines are man made, post mintage.

 

But information still leaks through the feedback system. If a buyer (or a seller) leaves feedback, it includes the auction title and a link to the auction, so you can see what someone's been buying -- unless it was a private auction, in which case neither the title nor the auction number are shown.

If you're sufficiently paranoid, ahem, prudent, you may not want Them to be able to see what you've been buying. If the original auction had been private, we wouldn't be able to see where this coin came from.

 

Yes, I was speaking of cases where feedback is left by the winning bidder. If the auction isn't private, you can still find out who the winning bidder is and contact him. But private auctions prevent that.

 

So, wait a week or so and hope the buyer who bought the coin leaves feedback. Kindly point them to the other auction where the seller was honest so they're well aware they just got scammed.

 

Ah crap, it was a private listing so it'd be hard to guess which buyer it was if they do leave feedback since he's got a whole bunch of others as private. But then again, someone could email a range of people asking if they bought the flying eagle and provide the link to the other auction. That might work!