Two key Lincolns, one is counterfeit. Which?

Both of these Lincolns were found in an estate collection I bought years ago. Because they are keys they were submitted to PCGS for certification and grading.

PCGS declared one counterfeit. Which? And what was their decision on the other?

The S-VDB images are big (if you click on them). For some reason I didn't save the '14-D in a very big images.
Lance.

 

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14-D is fake. As for the 09-S VDB, a lowish grade.

 

I would think that the '14 d is a cast counterfeit.

Mike

 

14d

 

14-D is counterfeit.

their decision on the other = grade? Genuine cleaned.

 

I would vote the 14-d fake. The hair looks funny.

 

'14-D's the fake. Sure, some may think it's just a weak strike, but to a well-trained eye, it's pretty suspicious. Well-made counterfeits are becoming more common by the day.

I'm gonna say PCGS said "Cleaned" (Maybe just "Cleaned Obv" if they're that specific) for the '09-S VDB.

-Brian

 

I'd say the '14-D is fake and the '09-s vdb is Genuine / cleaned

 

I also think the 1914 D is fake- the legends look wrong.

 

I'm thinking the 1914 is cast....everything looks "mushy" to me.

 

I'm guessing an added mint mark on the 14D and they didn't like the color of the SVDB.

 

Hey these guys are experts, but I ate a lot of paint chips as a kid. I am saying the 09 is counterfeit, because the liberty looks a little off centered. If you look at the bottom of the L it is higher than the bottom of the Y.

 

If the '14 D isn't fake, then my eyesight needs to be checked

 

Ok here's my guess - 1914 grease-filled die, cleaned genuine. 1909 counterfeit - s looks too flat? rev d.b looks good though.

 

Perfect! Everyone guessed the '14-D. Congratulations, everyone.

It is a genuine 1914 Lincoln with an added mintmark. It might fool a novice but it's wrong in lots of ways, especially the mintmark orientation. Pretty rough shape, alright. Late die state too.

How about the S-VDB? What did PCGS say about that one? No one guessed right so far. Hint: consider all possibile verdicts.
Lance.

 

-14 ? look at the mint mark

 

For the 1909 S vdb, is it the small spot of verdigris in the E in One?

 

dang you guys are good. It is going to take me years to get this down.

 

63bn?

 

1909 s vdb corrosion obverse 5 oclock and reverse 1 oclock?