Could I get a good eye for grading on these two Bust Quarters?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by JCB1983, Nov 21, 2011.

  1. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    Hey all, so I realize this isn't the (how much is it worth cat) but I am trying to get an accurate grade on a couple of my recent purchases. I love going old U.S., and am trying to bolster my Bust Quarter collection. I recently purchased this 1831, and 1834 Bust Q. I have a range of where I believe these two should be, but am looking for another opinion. I would like to mention that the 1834 is labeled as having an error in the die rotation. Can anyone explain what this means to me? Any opinions or observations on the coins would be greatly appreciated.

    ~Jason

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  3. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    I'd go VG8 on the first and F12 on the second. I do think the second has a decent chance of not grading cleanly, looks to have some hairline issues as well as some possible rim issues.

    A die rotation error is where a coin, when flipped vertically, doesn't display the opposing side in an identical orientation. Grab any coin from your change and look at the obverse. Then, flip it vertically. The reverse should be right side up and center as well. Now, if you flipped it vertically and the reverse wasn't in the same orientation, it would be a rotated die error. Typically, with rotated die errors, the degree of rotation dictates the premium, with the most valuable being 180 degrees. In the early 19th century, mint standards were fairly loose, and therefore, die rotation errors are far more common and draw minor premiums as opposed to, say, a Roosevelt dime.
     
  4. SSG_Gonzo

    SSG_Gonzo Well-Known Member

    Beautiful coins sorry not much of a greader. I see your in uniform are you still in?
     
  5. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    Thank you merc. I might have slightly overpaid for the 1834, but enjoy the appeal. I ended up paying 150 for the 34, and 81 for the 1831. Enjoyed the feedback.

    Hey SSG, got out back in 07. Threw this one up for veterans day, but I miss the old days so I left it up? Are you still active? Thanks for your service.

    ~Jason
     
  6. SSG_Gonzo

    SSG_Gonzo Well-Known Member

    I am active national guard. Wish I could get out but the army has me hook line and sinker since i just re uped for anothe 6 so it is what it is lol. Thanks for what you did airborne I am sure you sacrificed alot. Take care.
     
  7. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    Thanks man, you too. Hang in there.
     
  8. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    I'll say F-15 on the 1831, and F-12 on the 1834. But man oh man, did I ever pull those grades out of my butt.

    Awesome looking coins, sounds like a good price on the 1831. I'd buy one for that price.
     
  9. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    Thanks Snaz
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Neither coin would get in a regular slab and be graded. Both look to have been harshly cleaned and the first has corrosion pitting. I would say they both have F details, 1 high 1 low.
     
  11. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    I have no experience with grading these, but I grade jealousy.
     
  12. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I concur with the above assessment, although I might bump the second coin to VF20 details.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    OK, who are ya and what have done with Mike ? :D
     
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