CAC Piggybacking

Let me just tell you this is one of those situations where you cant make everybody happy. You seem like the type of person who always finds something wrong . What you need to remember is nothing is perfect. You cant expect CAC to just change all of there rules and bend over backwards because you want a membership. Then what then the next person wants something else. and so on and so on. IT was fair game for everyone. Not to mention. Your assuming that even if they did reopen memberships that it would mean you would get a membership. It says it right there on the page that just because you fill out the membership paper and join ANA, doesnt mean youll get a membership. Theres things that they require on the paper you fill out like who are your references, and clubs that you belong to and all kinds of other stuff. what dealers you know of..Cuz im sure if they reopend the memberships and you were rejected im sure you would be complaining about how they obviously dont care about collectors because they denied me. Thats life. get used to it.
Not only that I got an idea for you that would make you happy how about CAC just opens the doors and accepts every admission. ANd then how about they do everything for free. that way nobody has to pay anything and everybodys happy right.. Nobody getting turned down and not being charged a single dollar for anything sticker or not, and free shipping. How would that sound.
And I mean obviously they have enough people sending coins in to keep them all busy. OR else why wouldnt they be taking more clients. Thats because they are plenty busy. Unless you think that they are just looking at 10 coins a day and then they sit around all day. ANd im sure your next answere to my question would be. Well then they should hire more people to look over the coins.
The reason why they dont is the same reason why a small company doesnt want to expand to extreme amounts. They like what they do and like the amount of people working for them and things run smoothly that way. SO you cant blame them. In fact i commend them for not being bought out by the chance to make more money. The turnaround time is great. And you gota remember the more people you hire and more clients you have. The more chances of error, and making mistakes. And what you also have to know to is The way CAC does things are totally different then TPG. Number one because TPG have many workers and only 2 people will look at one coin and then if they need a split descision it goes to a third . WHich means that There isnt one person who looks at every coin. SO in case you didint know CAC has someone who grades and looks at the coins. for however long it takes I guess depending on the grade of the coin and how expensive the coin is. or toned. Etc. But they have the one guy I think its John who looks at everysingle coin that comes through just to make sure everything is ok and to make sure that it is a good coin to sticker or turn down. So obviously if you add hundreds of thousands of people wanting to join it would be physically impossible for the one guy to loook over every coin. Which then you fall into the problem with the TPG that have tons of coins out there in slabs that wernt graded properly because there many different oppinons because of so many different graders and alot of them werent trained properly or wernt keeping up with solid grading. ANd when you have so many customers like TPG do then they become sloppy and they have a ceartain amount of coins a day that they are somewhat expected to grade, and then that causes them to rush on alot of coins and they end up just picking a quick grade that they think at first glance. And that is what has caused all of these low end coins that are out in the market. And thus CAC becoming crucial for spotting high end coins that were properly graded. But as you notice there are more NON CAC coins out there. Then there is CAC coins. ANd yes there are some CAC coins that might not be deserving that slipped under the radar. But you gotta admit not many nowhere near as many good ones. So you also gota weigh out everything. And id rather have things the way they are now. and im not just saying that because I am already a member. because I too payed before I became a member. Thats just the name of the game. Not everyone has the same connections in life. And you just gota deal with it. If you want CAC coins that bad then you gota just pay the price or wait to buy CAC coins which you will end up paying more of a premium,. So your better off sending them in through someone else if thats what has to be done.. ANd the some of the prices that they have offered to charge. really are not that much and really is not bad at all. IT is actualy under fair. So good luck

 

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Said simply: Because if one opinion is good then two opinions are better.

I've used CAC, and I intend on using them again in the future. If you think I scare easily, or don't trust my grading skills, I would suggest you are mistaken (and you might want to take a look at the scoreboard in the guess the grade threads in the US Coins Forum ).

The reason I use CAC is (a) marketability of the coins with the sticker, and (b) for a second (and non-destructive) opinion on the coin.

 

Too long, didn't read.

Paragraphs and/or cliff notes would be awesome.

 

Cliff Notes: You have unreasonable expectations, and just because you don't see value doesn't mean others don't.

 

I don't see value? I want my coins CACed, or I wouldnt have made this thread. If anything, I see the value in having them CACed, I merely disagree with their policies in regards to submitting.

 

I think your initial point was lost in DreCollector's long, drawn out and not always to-the-point posts.

 

You asked for the cliff notes, I gave it to you. Never said I agreed with the perspective.

 

That's a perspective? Thought it was just a wall of text made to annoy me.

The whole point behind this thread was to see if any collectors would let me submit my Merc dimes through them. I have no clue if most of my stuff will CAC or not and I dont feel like gambling at $10 a pop.

 

Not just you, lol.

 

I would love to join

 

Hey MERC DIMES, JUst to help you out there are some places that you can send your coins through. Without having to gamble on wheather or not they will CAC. I know of a couple of dealers that will do it for you and you only pay for the ones that CAC, And the reason they do this is because after everythings done, They will make offers on your coins. And you dont have to sell any if you dont want too. As far as i know they still do it. Just a little help

 

Odd, although the title alludes to it, I never got that from any of your posts to this thread before this one.

 

First sentence of the first post.

 

It was unclear when I read it.

 

Jeez....I've been gone two weeks and on returning this thread really caught my attention. Yeah, it took a while to read - DreCollector is long winded - however, I couldn't agree more with him or her as well as reliable old Leadfoot. I have been a collector submitter since 2008 and I'm absolutely in favor of John Albanese' policies and practices. Yes, it was an eyeopening application for membership - references??? Yep, that surprised me; ANA membership? The more I thought about the process the more I saw his reasoning. CAC wanted serious collectors and this was a way to reach them. Bear in mind there was no requirement for size or worth of collection. Yes, they only consider selected coin series but you know that going in - if you don't collect those, don't apply. Originally I submitted a couple hundred coins but now send maybe 5 to 6 a month. I was a decent coin grader before joining but my skills have increased since I began to learn their standards. You all should realize that their operation is very "no frills". For example, my coins are always sent back to me in the box I sent them in. The turnaround time puts the TPGs to shame! Last Christmas they sent all of us a beautiful autographed hardbound book.

Simply put, John Albanese knows how to take care of his customers. Fair prices, rapid turnaround and respect will endear customer loyalty like no other attributes. And like Leadfoot points out, that little green sticker more than pays for itself.

One last point, MercCrazy, PM me. I would be happy to send your coins.

 

I would like to add a (c) to the above....

(c) because I recognize that I can still learn things about coins from others, and from JA in particular. Particularly around doctoring.

 

p.s. Riverguy, that was very nice of you to offer, and thanks for the kind words.

 

Hey Riverguy you are dead on and I totally agree with you. I love working with CAC because they are so Professional and Curtious to their customers, and even if you dont spend alot of money. ANd I also learned alot about grading and what i do is, when i get back the coins that didnt CAC, I lookover them again and It helps me figure out why the coin might not have been accepted. SOrry about all the long messages. Im new to this blog and this subject caught my eye. Because I was just talking about how good they are to their customers to someone else just the other day. So it was weird when i saw this. And alot of the times my sentences end up being run on. So I apologize in advanced. Take care
Doug