Lincoln Error I Can't Identify. Any thoughts?

I've had this for years but never really had any idea what kind of error this is. It looks like the Lincoln reverse stamped into a melted obverse. The edges are unaffected and the reverse is fine.

 

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It looks like another one was pressed down on top of it,Because the columns are sunk it and should be out it was struck with a regular die. But thats just my 2 cents worth.

 

That's pretty wild. I've never seen one quite like that.

I reckon one might call that a Woodstock cent, cause it sure looks like it went on an acid trip, lol.

 

Heavy abuse and PMD, not necessarily in that order.

IMHO

 

Looks like a partial brockage. Nice.
Lance.

 

Very odd coin. If you ignore the memorial the rest of the coin tends to look like it was struck through a late stage capped die. So you think a capped die strike that someone did a vise job on. But there is a problem. The memorial image is larger than on a regular cent. Almost like a late stage capped die strike that was then struck by an early to mid stage capped die.

 

Very interesting coin.. I think condor has this one. I do NOT believe its PMD.

 

There really is zero damage to the rim front or back and the back of the coin is untouched. The obverse is really dished out and as you can see Lincoln's image looks almost melted underneath the impression of the Lincoln memorial.

Another part of the puzzle is that the space between the pillars is raised not the pillars themselves.

 

I was just discussing what it LOOKED like I'm not saying that is what it is because there are problems with the descripition I gave that I think are insurmountable. The enlarged memorial is really too bold, and how do you explain the distortions? Also it would require the coin to be struck twice by either two different capped dies, or once by a capped die, get out of the way while the die gets a different cap and then somehow get back down into the collar with no rotation so as to not show a double striking on the reverse. Just not plausible.

 

How long ago did you get this coin? I sold one identical... If not the same coin on EBay a few months ago. This is definitely a brockage.

 

this is a later stage brokage. A brokage is caused by a capped die. in the early stages the Brokage is a clear reverse image of the reverse of the coin. through progressive strikes the cap coin stretches and creates the image that you see here where the reverse is streached but visible with the obverse starting to show through. through more strikes the reverse image fades and the distorted image that is commonly known as a capped die strike occurs. this is genuine and a nice example to boot.

 

Ziggy nailed this one perfect and gave a good correct description of how it was created at the mint. These are fairly easy to find on Ebay and I like them.

 

I forgot to mention to be on the lookout for fake man made error coins that looks almost exactly like this one. the fakes are easy to spot because the other side of the coin will show damage plus the man made ones will be larger in diameter than a normal coin .

 

Dutch, Couldn't be the same coin. I got this from my father-in-law's collection way back when. I've never been into error coins so I haven't paid much attention to the small pile of clipped plachets, PMD stuff, and this coin. If I thought it was worth the time, I'd have sold it on ebay a long time ago.

 

very nice error you have there!

 

Thank you cc!

I found one on ebay that looks a lot like this one.

LINCOLN CENT CAPPED DIE & BROCKAGE MINT ERROR

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LINCOLN-CENT-CAPPED-DIE-BROCKAGE-MINT-ERROR-/220834510308

 

The problem is that by the time the brockage/capped die is a late enough stage for the Lincoln to be showing through that strongly, the memorial brockage would be MUCH weaker than that shown on this coin. In fact it should be almost gone.

 

Very nice late-stage full obverse brockage! I see these on eBay fairly often... Infact, there's a couple listed right now, which one I happen to have in my "Watch List"


LIVE AUCTION- http://www.ebay.com/itm/260893037002?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

Now here's a "Buy-it-Now" auction that's been listed and relisted on eBay for quite awhile without a single movement in price, and the coin has obviously retained mint luster, so do not compare the value of this coin to your own coin- http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-FULL-BROCKAGE-MS63RB-PCGS-STUNNER-DETAILS-REAL-EYE-CANDY-MINT-ERROR-/260868971962?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3cbd009dba


...Though similar coins to yours are fairly common, they're a great example of a brockage error and bring substantial premiums. I'd value yours at anywhere from $30-$60, depending on where it is sold (eBay or possibly to a collector in need of this particular error may drastically change the financial outcome). I recommend you monitor the live auction and match the relized price to your own coin... The outcome of the auction will be the best opinion on the value you could get.

-Brian

 

This is a clashed cap strike, a type of brockage. A late-stage die cap clashed directly with the reverse die, picking up a fresh image on its working face. It then struck the next few planchets, this coin representing one of them. So you've got a relatively unexpanded (and incomplete) brockage overlying a strong raised ghost of Lincoln.

 

Thank you Mike that explains the strong memorial that shouldn't be there. I never considered a die clash of the reverse die and the late stage die cap.