Lincoln Cent on Foreign Planchet?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by HowardStern, Nov 13, 2011.

  1. HowardStern

    HowardStern Member

    Found this is pocket change. Its much smaller the a normal cent (about 2 or 3 mm's). The edge is rounded a little. It weighs 2.5 grams. Apeears to be copper. The dimensions of lincolns bust and the memorial on the reverse are the same on a normal cent. Can anybody tell me if this is struck on a foreign planchet? If so, what planchet?
     

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  3. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    Might have been in a fire? Just guessing.
     
  4. HowardStern

    HowardStern Member

    it just seems to perfect around the edges. would a fire shrink a penny? Im hoping its not play money of some sort. I may just have to submit to find out?
     
  5. calumsherwood

    calumsherwood New Member

    a long long time stuck in a dryer is my guess
     
  6. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    I wouldn't send it in just yet. Wait for a few other members to look at before spending any money.
     
  7. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    post mint damage. this coin spent a LONG time in a commercial clothes dryer.

    Richard
     
  8. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    There have been many experimenters ( especially in college physic labs ) that electromagnetically shrink coins. Most use quarters, but see url for examples of IHC. When this is first tried, many adjustment coins will come out with different sizes, but the weight the same. Something about the deformity on the OP coin that may be suspect.

    http://205.243.100.155/frames/interesting1.html

    Here is different url, showing the side view effect that the OP might check on his.

    http://205.243.100.155/frames/shrinker.html

    I am sorry I gave my 12,000V/100,000A capacitors away :)
     
  9. HowardStern

    HowardStern Member

    I understand your theory of the coin shrinking, however, can you explain to me why all of the other coins still had every detail in them and mine has absolutely no detail besides the outlines of Lincoln and The Lincoln Memorial?
     
  10. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Yes, that is the question. At first I thought it was a dryer coin, but I haven't seen a dryer coin or a spooned coin that wasn't rounder/enlarged at the rim. A smaller foreign planchet would not ( I think) form the rim as well. I think there would be lesser metal to squeeze that far for complete rims.The weight would indicate a copper clad zinc cent if. The reverse shows a thin layer of metal that seems to be pushed or drawn to the center, so I search my knowledge for a way to do that, and the electromagnetic contraction process came about. Yes, their coins for sale are excellent dwarfs, but they are using expert equipment and long periods of experimentation. I would guess they ruined many coins before they eventually go to that point.

    In order , I would think a dryer or similar type of process rotating the coin. Then the others. But, it has/is PMD.
     
  11. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    This is a spooned coin that is usually done by prisoners to occupy their time. Believe it or not the reason the detail is so worn out is because of wear from the makers fingers. the rim of the coin is flared out from whatever the maker uses like say a spoon then the flared out area is pushed down on the obverse and reverse sides of the coin.
     
  12. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    I agree. Nobody with a brain would try and spoon a zinc cent
     
  13. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I'd say it's a dryer coin... nobody would spoon a cent.
     
  14. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    This coin has spent so long in the commercial dryer that the buldge you are looking for has actually been flattened out. The edge of the rim that has been curled over is actually the area that you see closer to the center of the coin that look like a lamination error.

    Richard
     
  15. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I can easy tell that you have never been locked up in prison. I'm 60 years old and was never in jail until last year and had a false charge put on me by a mentally handicapped person and had to stay in jail for 12 hours and this little bit about did me in. I can only imagine being put behind bars for lifetime. there are literally thousands of spooned cent coins out there done by prisoners. I just wonder how many years they peck away at one of these coins.
     
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