1917 D and 1909 V.D.B. worth sending in to get graded?

i found the 1917 D in curculation and i just bought the 1909 and i was thinking about sending them into ngc


and the 1909


any help would be greatly appreciated
what would you guess the grade at as well?

 

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They look really nice im guessing mid-higher grade but ill let others guess the grade

 

Hard to tell all details from pics but I'd say the 1909 looks sharp (better than the one I have which is about a VF condition), I'd guess maybe EF or better perhaps. The 1917 definitely has some cheekbone wear, perhaps VF or slightly better. Both have what appears to be pretty sharp wheat heads.

 

They are both nice coins, but I'm not sure grading would be worth it. You can buy an MS64BN example of the 1909 VDB for around $40 already slabbed. The 1917-D looks XF45 to me, which would run you about $30. You'd have to get up to the MS62 or so range for the coin to be worth $100, which is just my personal cut-off for even thinking about sending a coin in for grading (as it will cost you at least $30 to have it graded).

Very nice pick-ups! :thumb:

 

1917-D as XF45? I know the pictures aren't great but seems to me there's too much wear on the cheekbone and chin to be XF grade, that's why I said VF or slightly better.

I agree on not getting them graded. I don't grade any of my own coins but if I did, it'd have to likely be well over the $100 value to send off to spend extra for the graded slab, etc.

 

I was being optimistic...I'm not sure why someone would even ask if they should slab a VF example of a 1917-D cent.

 

By the way, "slightly better" than VF is XF.

XF by definition has wear on the cheek. the hair detail and the wheat look quite nice, even given the quite fuzzy photos.

 

I figured EF40 or so at most, not EF45 or XF45 as you say. An EF45 would be a Choice Extremely Fine with possibly some mint luster showing as well, which I fail to see according to the pics provided. I just don't honestly see the 1917-D has XF-45, still looks like there is too much wear (more than slight wear that is) on the cheek, chin and even on his coat now looking at it again.. Slight wear would make it an XF but in my book, it's not that high. Call me picky!

 

i believe the 17d is xf the wear on the cheek is because it was brought back into circulation thus how i found it lol if it hadnt have been brought back into circulation i believe it would be an au example and i only paid a penny for it. if i were to send these in id do the 5 for 17 dollars a piece deal they have on the ngc site so i wouldnt be spending 30 per coin.

 

im sory for the blurry pics... i need to get a didgital camera. these are 2.0mp cell phone pics.

 

Neither coin is worth getting slabbed by a TPG. For these coins you have to at least get into the MS grades to make it cost effective.....and neither of them is MS.

 

Yeah but I think what we're trying to say is, you're sending coins likely worth about $30 or so, maybe less even and spending another $5-$17 just to get graded.

About the XF condition, look at Lincoln's chest as well, there's clearly wear there along his coat and wear on his chin with absolutely not hair details for the chin, which to me tells me this is no more than EF40 since from the pics there's no sign of mint luster on it either.

 

Thank you for all the opinions, ill just keep em raw..

 

Smart move. Keep them raw.

Much of my collection is PCGS-slabbed, and safely stashed away. I go through them now and again but nearly as often as I get to enjoy raw coins in albums and flips.

Slabbing is important for pricey coins; no argument. All things equal, I prefer raw.
Lance.

 

I do not think either coin's value is significant enough to make investing more money in grading a win-win. Typically, my personal rule of thumb is to slab a coin if is in the $200 range, and neither of these coins are worth that amount of money.

That's not to say either coin is a bad coin, or that both would not grade, but rather the ROI is simply not there to send them to a TPG.



Nice coins, BTW.