What do think about this some will love some will hate it

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Yep - I think you are right. I could go either way, but will stick with nice fantasy piece.

 

I've said it before. I think Daniel Carr is very talented, but I wish he would start directing his talents toward original designs of his own rather than provide inspiration for counterfeiters.

Chris

 

If there is one upside to your purchase, it is that you spent your dough with an American counterfeiter instead of Chinese.

 

And this is diferent in what way than a CC Morgan from years that they were not made that I report all the time to eBay. Sorry but this is pushing the line too far.

 

How is that legal?

 

This modern fantasy is LEGAL and is not required to carry a "COPY" stamp for the following reasons:

1) These are not copies of Morgan silver dollars - they are privately over-struck on GENUINE government-issue Morgan silver dollars that were originally minted from 1878-1921.
2) According to the US Treasury, no Morgan dollars were minted or dated during the years 1905 through 1920 - so this can't be a copy of one dated 1909 since they don't exist.
3) Defacing of US coins is legal so long as the defacement isn't for fraudulent purposes.

By purchasing one or more of these coins, the buyer agrees to provide full disclosure of their origin when reselling them. Failure to provide potential buyers with complete and accurate information when offering these coins could result in criminal and/or civil fraud charges. In other words, don't even think about trying to sell these to unaware buyers as original 1909-o Morgan silver dollars !

The pictures accurately show what the coins look like. No photo editing was performed. There may be subtle differences between coins. Since they are over-struck on existing coins, there may be faint evidence of the original coin design showing since the overstrike is usually not perfectly aligned with the original strike.
Do not attempt to use these as legal tender. This product is NOT endorsed or approved by the US Mint, US Treasury, or US Government.

 

Counterfeit.

 

From MoonLight Mint web site

This modern fantasy is LEGAL and is not required to carry a "COPY" stamp for the following reasons:

1) These are not copies of Morgan silver dollars - they are privately over-struck on GENUINE government-issue Morgan silver dollars that were originally minted from 1878-1921.
2) According to the US Treasury, no Morgan dollars were minted or dated during the years 1905 through 1920 - so this can't be a copy of one dated 1909 since they don't exist.
3) Defacing of US coins is legal so long as the defacement isn't for fraudulent purposes.

By purchasing one or more of these coins, the buyer agrees to provide full disclosure of their origin when reselling them. Failure to provide potential buyers with complete and accurate information when offering these coins could result in criminal and/or civil fraud charges. In other words, don't even think about trying to sell these to unaware buyers as original 1909-o Morgan silver dollars !

The pictures accurately show what the coins look like. No photo editing was performed. There may be subtle differences between coins. Since they are over-struck on existing coins, there may be faint evidence of the original coin design showing since the overstrike is usually not perfectly aligned with the original strike.
Do not attempt to use these as legal tender. This product is NOT endorsed or approved by the US Mint, US Treasury, or US Government.

 

Thanks for that info dwhiz! Much appreciated. I think it's sad though that a real coin has to die to make this. I'd take a junk silver morgan over a fantasy one any day...too much history in a coin to destroy it.

 

I understand your feelings, when you go to coin shows and see the quanity of Morgan Dollars available, I think what Daniel Carr is doing it's better than melting them. hey what do I know that's just the way I see it.
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I do not ever recall silver dollars being melted. Maybe in 1980, but they always sell for a premium to other junk silver, so why would you destroy value by melting it? The only ones I could see melted today would be severely damaged examples.

I say this only because I believe "its better to do this than melt them" is a red herring argument. Does this mint show pictures of the authentic silver dollars being destroyed in order to make these?

Other than that I will keep my opinions to myself on this.

Chris

 

Thanks Chris

 

I guess I'm a purist then...even if you ran it over with a tank, scorched it, and bathed it in acid, i'd rather keep the coin as is then "reinvent" it somehow.

 

He does know how to create quality coins. However, like Chris said, I too would love for Carr to create his own designs and I personally would buy more

It is totally legal, just not everyone has the tools to make these.

 

Counterfeit.

 

It's believed when the Mint ended the release of $1000 bag for face value in the early 60's, what they had left over was possibly melted. However, no one knows for sure if that's the case, but it does make sense.

 

It's obvious you do not know the definition of "counterfeit".

 

The '09-O is interesting, I suppose, just not my cup of tea. With the '64 Peace dollars I understood the novelty of having one, but with these Morgans I don't really get "it". I see them on par with the Morgan bullion rounds, or as a peculiar pocket piece, but that's about it. I don't see any harm in them though.

 

Illini is gonna want one (1909).