Possible error coins

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by snowracer919, Apr 25, 2006.

  1. snowracer919

    snowracer919 New Member

    I have three coins that are different from others that I have seen before. The first one is a 1973 D penny where the back is filled in, in some areas. The 2nd one is a 1943 penny that had doubling in the date and the R in liberty. And the 3rd coin is a 1913-S Barber Dime with what looks like two raised areas that are kind of like the Wisconsin leaf error but a little smaller. Any help would be greatly appreciated in finding out what exactly is wrong with these coins and also the value of them. Thanks
     

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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Can't offer much help with the first cent, but the '43 looks like an RPM. As for the dime, my guess would be clash marks.
     
  4. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    I doubt the 1943 would be an RPM since it has no mint mark.
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Ya got a point, I hadn't looked it up til now :thumb: There is DDO though, but it says all of theletters of LIBERTY are doubled.

    Can you post a pic of the LIBERTY ?
     
  6. snowracer919

    snowracer919 New Member

    Here are a couple of views but they aren't that good. The R and E show it the best and it just blends in with the I and the others don't really show it as much.
     

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  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'll let others who know better than I say for sure, but it looks like DDO to me :thumb:
     
  8. PyrotekNX

    PyrotekNX Senior Member

    The 43 isn't a DDO. It's machine doubling which is very common on this year because the steel planchets were almost as hard as the dies and there was a lot of die chatter which would cause a doubling. A true DDO will have split serifs. The other coins look like minor cuds or the like and wouldn't add any premium.
     
  9. tonylynch

    tonylynch RMO Collector

    Looks like one here too, but I'm not one of the others mentioned above...
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Hmmmm, looks like split serifs to me :confused:
     

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  11. PyrotekNX

    PyrotekNX Senior Member

    I see some minor doubling in liberty. The date is machine doubled.
     
  12. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    The first cent is probably a clashed die error.

    The 1943 has been replated and the process often makes details appear doubled

    Hard to say on the dime, but it appears to be a clashed die error as well.

    Bill
     
  13. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    I used to always hear a phrase of "Some call it a spear and some call it an arrow".
    The 1943 cent is a double regardless of what you call it. The 73 just looks like the usual poor strike producing a weak reverse. Never seen anything like the dime error though. The 43 cent should be worth some money though because it is appears to be in decent condition. If your really curious with Lincoln Cents you can't beat coppercoins.com for a truthfull answer.
     
  14. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    How can you have split serifs on letters that have NO serifs?
    The 43 is replated and is not worth more than a quarter. And the other two are clashed die errors. For some here, there seems to be the idea that some of us who have seen these things a thousand times can't give a good diagnosis. As much as some folks would like to think they have something never before seen, and they get suggestions to seek answers elsewhere, (of course they are entitled to do so) You get some very accurate answers here.
    Bill
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Ok Bill, I'll give ya that. Wrong terminology on my part. But just what would it be called then ? I mean there is little doubt that the corners of the letters are notched as it is plainly evident in the pics.

    I won't dispute your claim that the coin is plated, it may well be. Yeah I could understand what looks like doubling along the edges of the letters as a result of plating. But I see no way that notching like this could occur as a result of plating.
     
  16. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    Difficult to dispute replated or not without a better examination though. I collect 43 Lincoln Cents. Have 26 rolls and not one shows any such doubling. I go to coin shows about 2 times a month and sometime more and I always look for the 43 Lincolns because I always have liked them. Odd that after over 60 years I missed such a common error.
    As to very accurate answers here, I sure agree with that. Some of the answers on this forum to questions are of virtuallly the best that can be obtained. My suggestion to also contact coppercoins about Lincoln Cents was only intended to note that there is a person out there that dedicates his life to that coin and his opinion is somewhat better than most.
     
  17. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi,
    The only split I see is what appears to be damage on the Y of LIBERTY. It is difficult to explain as I am not a metalurgist. In fact, I'm not even sure I can spell metalurgist :).
    But... Splits and grooves on the letters that indicate die doubling look completely different than the doubling visible on this coin. You can tell by that "ripple"effect that this is a replated, or what is called a reprocessed cent. maybe Mike can explain how it occurs. I can't . I just know that it does occur and almost every reprocessed cent that I have seen has this doubling effect.
    Have Fun,
    Bill
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    What I see on the 1943 looks like die erosion doubling. The dime has clashed dies. I'm not sure what is going on with the 1973.
     
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