Grade This!

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Detecto92, Nov 4, 2011.

  1. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Going to be adding some of my "better" coins to this thread over the coming weeks. If you have time, I would look to grade these coins.

    1921 Morgan Dollar.

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  3. calumsherwood

    calumsherwood New Member

    it never hurts to say please you know. as for grade im not too sure. there are a lot of marks (especially on the obverse) that i think might be on the holder rather then the coin but i just cant tell
     
  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It looks like it has been improperly cleaned. I see lots of hairlines and those gashes on Liberty's face may be interpreted as damage..............AU Details.

    Chris
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Might be the pics it look to have been lightly polished to me. That would get it the harshly cleaned designation and no grade.
     
  6. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I agree with the AU details and cleaned.
     
  7. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    I'd agree with the others, AU, possibly cleaned.
     
  8. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    Agreeing that the coin has been harshly cleaned... Probaby borderlining MS-Details.

    -Brian
     
  9. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    3 coins, so I will number them. I will number all for future reference, and to make it easier.


    Lets start out with the nicest piece. 1834 Dime. This is my father's though. Found metal detecting. This is #1
    It was very bright as most silver does coming out of the ground, but had developed tarnish as it sits in air.
    I'm guessing EF-40, let's hear yours. Also, would it be worth having it slabbed by PCGS or ANACS?
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    1866 3 Cent Nickel. I'm guessing G-4. #2
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    1882 Morgan Dollar. I have no idea on this one. #3 It has NOT been cleaned.
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  10. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    #1 - AU details cleaned
    #2 - G6/VG8
    #3 - I would guess AU55/58, but it might make MS
     
  11. rev1774

    rev1774 Well-Known Member

    I would have to say 1 was cleaned as well considering it was dug.. shame really as it looks like some great detail..........
     
  12. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    The #1 coin was found with a detector, came out of the ground bright, as most silver coins do. The only cleaning done to it was with a soft brush under running water to knock dirt off. It has never been polished.
     
  13. rev1774

    rev1774 Well-Known Member

    Perhaps but, that was probably all it took to give it a details grade as you can see the lines from cleaning it if I see what I think I see there...
     
  14. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    What is the average value of #1?
     
  15. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    Whatever an original "Fine" coin of the same date is listed for.

    -Brian
     
  16. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    1921 Morgan - improperly cleaned
    1834 Capped bust dime - improperly cleaned
    1866 3CN - improperly cleaned
    1882 Morgan - AU53/55
    Lance.
     
  17. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    By improperly cleaned on the capped bust dime. Do you mean by the toning, or the marks on the surface?
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The marks on the surface. And no it doesn't matter if those marks (the hairlines and fine scratches) are the result of the coin being in the ground or the result of someone harshly cleaning the coin.
     
  19. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Coins #4 and #5.

    #4 1958 Wheat Cent.
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    #5 1964 Lincoln Cent.

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  20. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I would guess your 58 would go 64. However, your 64 is another picture of your 58!
     
  21. DW-coins

    DW-coins Slave to coins...

    The 1921 Morgan, 1834 capped bust dime and the 1866 3CN = details, improperly cleaned (it's fairly clear from the photos) and the 1882 is boarder line unc, could go AU58 or MS61, I wouldn't be surprised with either grade.
     
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