Fake?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by CCMerc, Oct 22, 2011.

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Is this 1916 D FAKE?

  1. YES

    3 vote(s)
    33.3%
  2. NO

    6 vote(s)
    66.7%
  1. CCMerc

    CCMerc New Member

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  3. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Looks real to me. (Nice early PCGS bodybag as well.)
     
  4. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Now wouldn't PCGS put it in a slab and mark it as genuine "Improperly cleaned" ? Also, why does the slip of paper say MS FB? His description says xf+.
     
  5. LindeDad

    LindeDad His Walker.

    That body bag was printed back in the rattler slab days look at the dot metric print. They did not slab problems back then. The problem now is that the boddy bags were not sealed so now we do not know if that is the same coin that was sent in.

    Oh and the MS/FB on the slip is for the graders use all dime are submitted with the non FB number and the graders must make that determation as part of the grading the number then changes if it is.
     
  6. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Oh ok, that's what I figured. So, on that note, if I were interested in spending 4-5k on a key date (and highly counterfitted) coin, even though it is admitted to being cleaned, I would still want it to be in a genuine slab. Especially when the slip says MS and the description says xf. :)
     
  7. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    PCGS has only slabbed genuine but problem cons for a little over three years now. (In fact back when that bobybag was printed PCGS was adamant that they would NEVER EVER deliberately put problem coins into a PCGS slab.) The MS on the tag indicated that it is a business strike. It has nothing to do with the actual grade of the coin.
     
  8. LindeDad

    LindeDad His Walker.

    I would think that in a case of a coin like this if one were even to think about buying it they should contact the seller and get a written contract that if the coin would not slab as genuine it could be returned.
    But I would never buy a RAW coin for over $200.00 on eBay is my personal rule.:rolleyes:
     
  9. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Great rule there LindeDad.

    Ahh, ok. Thanks for that. You are just full of useful information for me today!
     
  10. CCMerc

    CCMerc New Member

    it still looks fake to me. It has the mushy appearance of a fake, and the color of the coin is wrong....
     
  11. ratio411

    ratio411 Active Member

    It looks real to me.
    The 'mushy' and 'miscolored' look comes from an improper cleaning IMO.
     
  12. quartertapper

    quartertapper Numismatist

    Good rule to live by. Some sellers have become very good at taking very flattering pictures of some not so attractive coins.
     
  13. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    The obscured color is due to the scanning of the coin. When coin's are scanned, typically, the luster is muted in the photo and details may be somewhat, what you describe as, "mushy". I'm nearly 100% sure that is a genuine 1916-D Mercury Dime.

    -Brian
     
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