I..umm..really?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by gbroke, Sep 14, 2011.

  1. LindeDad

    LindeDad His Walker.

    Nobody remembers making the stink bombs in chemistry class lets see sulpher and what acid was it?
     
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  3. afox

    afox sometime collector

    That was my brother. Mom wouldn't let me play with that stuff. Mom and Dad learned their lesson when they bought that chemistry set for my older brother.
     
  4. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    It's just Hydrogen Sulfide I thought.
     
  5. CamaroDMD

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  6. rev1774

    rev1774 Well-Known Member

    The 1887 Morgan must have been toned in some way since it was slabbed reverse out. The TPG's don't normally do that unless the one side is the exception to the norm correct? Though it still looks like AT
     
  7. gboulton

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  8. McBlzr

    McBlzr Sr Professional Collector

    Bad, Very Bad, Double FacePalm Bad
     

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  9. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

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    Really?


    Folks need to understand that Silver Eagles are not the same as a 90% Silver/10% Copper coin. They are .999 fine silver and as such can tone up beautifully in less than a year.

    While I agree that the selling price of some of these toned SAE's can get quite expensive, I also realize that they do tone easily and there are a lot of folks out there that like them.

    Personally, I wouldn't be so quick to judge ICG based upon a toned SAE.
     
  10. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Just because they are .999 fine silver doesn't mean they naturally tone crazy colors quickly. That coin you posted is a clear AT coin and it has been discussed here before. I think PCGS went through a period with ASE's where they were more forgiving.

    Now, as for ICG. At one time they were a very good TPG...and then they came under new management. Ever since that change, their grading quality has took a substantial dive. This ASE is just another example of their decline.
     
  11. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    The color in the listing you posted looks about right for an SAE allowed to stay in a toning rich environment. Something as simple as putting it in a drawer for a couple of years with a business card on it will cause that.
     
  12. dmott88

    dmott88 Coin Slinger

    I couldn't agree more. Thats exactly what seems to be going on with the grading companies at late.
     
  13. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Hmmm. http://www.teletrade.com/coins/lot....764&imagetype=d2&gotolot=1&submit=Go+to+lot+#

    This one even upgraded after it was bought.
     
  14. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I wonder what I could get for this one?

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  15. Tyler

    Tyler Active Member

    In 14 years toning like that..haha dumb buyers.
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Looks like I have to play the contrarian. Coins can tone like that, and completely naturally. I've had them do it myself. I once had an entire roll of ASE's get those purple rings on them and every coin was stored in an Ait-Tite. And all of the Air-Tites were then stored in in a Tupperware container.

    And I sure as heck didn't do anything to 'em. It was 100% natural toning. And it took less than 1 year.
     
  17. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    When I first encountered these toned SAE's, I simply could NOT believe that they were natural but I am now convinced beyond any reasonable doubt that they are. Yes, some are assisted by improper storage but given the fact that they are 100% Silver, they tone incredible fast. All without chemicals.

    BTW, the subject of this thread does indeed remind me of the All Seeing Eye of Sauron!
     
  18. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned


    Well you and Doug have given me something to think about. Maybe I just jump to the AT conclusion a little quickly when it comes to outrageous color and patterns like this one. On that note, even being a toning fan, I just simply do not find it attrative. To each their own I guess. :)
     
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