Four Morgans - Which is the Fake?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by ahearn, Sep 6, 2011.

  1. ahearn

    ahearn Member

    I recently acquired a handful of replica Morgans of various dates and mint marks from a seller on eBay to educate myself on spotting counterfeit coins. Frankly I was surprised at the quality of these coins, which would easily fool an inexperienced collector. Even though purchased from a U.S. seller, none were marked "copy" or "replica" as required by law.

    Can you spot the one fake? Click on any pair for a closer view. I've blacked out the mint marks for reasons I'll explain later. I'll provide more details and closer views on the fake coins later, but first let's have a little fun
     

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  3. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    Edit:

    After rereading your question there is only one fake that would be 3
     
  4. chridular

    chridular Member

    I´d say that number 2 is the fake. I´d like to see it closer, but it looks cast to me.
     
  5. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    One fake = #3
     
  6. redskins26

    redskins26 Member

    i am going to agree with this one
     
  7. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I'm going to say #3...it looks a little off to me.
     
  8. rlspears10

    rlspears10 Member

    My first thought was number 3. The more I look at number 1, the more I don't like the date and the eagle's head. I'm still very inexperienced so I am interested to see how this thread turns out.
     
  9. McBlzr

    McBlzr Sr Professional Collector

    I don't like the LIBERTY so I go with #3.
     
  10. falsestier

    falsestier New Member

    Im going to say three. The beak of the eagle appears larger than the other three to me.
     
  11. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    I don't like the 8's in #2, but overall, #3 definitely looks like the best candidate for a fake.
     
  12. ThinnPikkins

    ThinnPikkins Well-Known Member

    #3, the slant of the nose is off from the rest
     
  13. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I'm going against the grain...
    Assuming #3's rim is a function of a poorly cropped picture, I would say #4 is the fake. One of the two 9s looks altered. I'd guess you covered the mint mark due to the "micro-O" issue with 1899. Now, if #3 isn't a result of cropping, then #3 is the fake due to the strange lack of a rim.

    The reason I picked #4 is the chin looks really flat for a 1879 design Morgan.
     
  14. Coinsnake

    Coinsnake MorganMan

    I have also purchased a few of these for educational purposes. I am going with #4 because the date & denticles look a little strange to me, but after seeing the lack of most of her ear and the eagles right wing tip, I'm almost thinking #3. But, I believe #4 is the fake.The 9s look bogus.

    Also I'm going to go out on a limb and say that #4 (or #3, whichever is the fake) has a Carson City mintmark to top it off. Maybe that's why you blacked them out.
     
  15. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    I' say #3 as well.
     
  16. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'll say #3 as well.
     
  17. JJK78

    JJK78 Member

    The first one that stands out to me is #2 the 1884 due to color etc. but after a closer look the denticles look crappy on #3 and would believe me to think it is the culprit too...
     
  18. rev1774

    rev1774 Well-Known Member

    Perhaps me old eyes are not seeing the date clearly enough but, I'm going to say number 1 that second 8 looks like a 3 to me... I will :eek: stare at it better and perhaps change my feeling...


    Edit... Make that 3 after blowing it up a bit better it isn't a 3 but an 8......
     
  19. zach24

    zach24 DNSO 7070 71 pct complete

    I completely agree, thats número tres for me.
     
  20. RaceBannon

    RaceBannon Member

    I'm going with #3. Too much luster remaining in the fields for the amount of wear on the devices of that coin.
     
  21. gboulton

    gboulton 7070 56.98 pct complete

    I'm going with my gut...I know everyone says 3, and that right wing tip DOES look odd...but...

    #1 just doesn't look right to me.
     
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