Morgan 1881 s. Had been bought in London this week

I guess most of the members here are too young to remember Opie Taylor (Andy Griffith show), played by Ron Howard. Anyway, OP is "Original Post (or poster).

 

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I know the 1889-O coins were fake...those were obvious. As for no bag marks...the 1881-S is extremely common in high grade. You find them everywhere for not a big premium. His 1921 is the most common coin in the series and is also easy to find in superb condition. I think the 1921 has been over dipped though. But, the condition of the 1881-S and 1921 do not make me think for a second they are fake. I also don't see any indication in the details that either is fake.

 

Me either.

 

Looks real to me.

 

I'll bow to the consensus and say they look real to me also..

 

This is the second time in less than a week you've called out a coin as non-genuine when it looks to be an absolutely genuine article. Please refrain from crying that it's a fake unless you're absolutely sure it is.

This coin looks overdipped. Shame, it's a really nice, high-grade specimen. Probably would go 65 if it hadn't been overdipped, now I'd say 63+ due to poor luster and cartwheel. Then again, your pics could be hiding a lot of hits I can't see, but the cheek looks fantastic.

 

I have qualified my statements: "From what I can tell..." "From the pictures, it looks like..." I have posted side-by-side comparisons. Have you even bothered to hold your mouse over the attached thumbnails and make a detailed comparison of the areas that I said bothered me? Especially with that 1917 quarter-- even if it is real-- and I seriously doubt it-- it has so many problems that even $17 dollars would be too much to pay for it.

I saw a dealer's display at a recent coin show in Tokyo of a lot of silver dollars that looked just like the one in the original post. All raw. In 40 years of silver dollar collecting, I have never seen such "perfect" specimens, especially so many raw ones, of different dates. Even dollars straight out of original rolls tend to have several blemishes.

At any rate, tell me how you would grade these two coins:

 

I don't grade coins without shots of the obverse and reverse, sorry.

 

How about this coin. What grade is it?

 

Of the Morgan's the OP has posted...only the 1881-S was in that good of shape. If you really have searched so many silver dollars you should know that 1880-S and 1881-S Morgan's are readily available in very high grade and are extremely common. This coin looks nice but certainly has some dings and imperfections. I know the 1889-O Morgan's were obvious fakes but that doesn't mean every coin he owns is.

 

Those pics are WAY too small to grade.

Throw a Morgan at me, decent sized. That's what the OP posted, no?

 

The coins I saw at that show were all striking in that they were too uniform, too few blemishes with a slight off color. They really did not look natural.

I have also seen lots of high-grade 80-S and 81-S Morgans. Those were exceptional years for strike and luster. But all of the slabbed ones I have seen have had some noticeable bag mark, etc., often on the cheek, from sitting in bags. Perhaps you could point out the dings, etc., (not discoloration) on the coin in the original post?

 

Ms68??

 

How's this?

 

Still too small.

:goofer:

 

Pixelated as crap.

Here's a grading-size picture for ya.

 

Is that a 1916-W?!?!? NICE!!!!!





Sorry. couldn't resist! :goofer:

 

Well, I'm going to agree with 1966. I think this Morgan looks way too perfect. Even MS-66+ coins will have some marks. This Morgan has survived since 1881 and ended up half way around the world, in this perfect shape, loose? I'm saying it's doubtful. Like many here, I've also viewed thousands of real high grade Morgans.

Because they got the weight right, doesn't settle it. Based on these photos, people think it looks real to them? Well guess what, the Chinese fake Morgans LOOK REAL TOO! The debate cannot be settled by these photos alone but I'm highly doubting it's real.

 

Based on those pics? Questionable........I'd pass on it.

 

:smileMention that the COIN was bought at the respectable store located at the London British Museum!

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