As I posted before in this thread here http://www.cointalk.com/t190692/ This morgan came out AU53. I was initialy 80% sure it was cleaned. But there was somethinga bout it that make me think........And for some reason I was right So I asked NCS to take a look at the coin as it´s still in the vault at NGC. To see what they think about bringing out the luster as it´s blocked by a matt haze as well as a AT toning. Now some questions if anyone is interested in pondering with me 1st The toning on the coin is not purdy " In my oppinion ". It´s most likely due to the whitman folder and it both uneaven and spread. So i´m thinking that if that´s taken off it would bring out the luster and make the over all look to the coin even. Agree or not ? 2nd If the mint luster comes out would that effect the grading of the coin at all ? Reason I ask is because i´m a newb in the US grading scale and customs. 3rd I have heard of coins that were graded that were sent to NCS that came out cleaned. Would you think I would be risking that ? Best regards Siggi
I have had only one experience with NCS and it was over a Fugio. My coin had a NASTY verdigis corrosion hole forming and they didn't even try to conserve the coin. Came back in a body bag. As far as toniing being removed and becoming a "cleaned" coin, I have no idea on that one.
First of all the process NCS uses does not remove toning. It will remove and dirt and grime however, and sometimes light haze. No. Being graded AU53 is based on the amount of wear the coin has. And even if NCS could bring out the luster more, it's not going to change the amount of wear the coin has. But it is possible that it will reveal even more wear. Of course. There are many coins where an old cleaning was covered up by dirt and grime and/or toning. And once that was removed the harsh cleaning became evident. As I explained before when you first posted this coin, the obviously place where the coin showed harsh cleaning was under STATES. That should have been enough to get the coin in a Details slab. But I believe they ignored that and put it in regular slab because of its rarity factor.
most of the times the haze returns and TPG do what they please to make a few bucks ok off now grandpa see you next week hopefully
Thank you sir, It´s always a plesure to read your respons and i´m as always greatful for your time and efford in giving me your oppinion. Siggi !
Doug, I'm pretty sure they dip coins to remove toning (I'm not sure if it's standard practice, or you have to request it though). Check out some of the examples they list on their site as conserved coins: Numismatic Conservation Services
Poor wording on my part. Yes they can and will remove toning, but typically only if the toning is unsightly or potentially harmful. As it was with the coins on their pics. But if a coin has colorful or attractive toning - they will attempt to conserve the coin and leave the toning alone.
