Dipping PL/DMPL morgans.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Merc Crazy, Sep 3, 2011.

  1. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    Saw a borderline one for sale today, '81-S, would probably grade 63, is borderline DMPL, but toning and some haze obscure the mirrors enough for me not to be able to tell. I should assume it'll be available for the forseeable future. At a price tag of $48 (I offered him $40, then $45 (just to see if he was budging) and it was a no go), it's a very tempting buy.

    My question is this; will a quick dip damage the mirrors on a DMPL Morgan substantially enough to remove the possibility of it attaining said DMPL designation? I'd prefer an answer with someone who has experience with dipping Morgans like that.
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Let me put it to you this way, there are plenty of coins designated DMPL that have been dipped.
     
  4. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    There are also plenty of PL and DMPL coins that look much worse after a dip. Some toning is deceiving and hard as heck to see through. You might end up with a PL AU coin in the end.
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Dipping a coin is always a risk because you never know for sure what you'll end up with.

    There are more than a few stories out there of dealers taking a solid 5 figure coin, dipping it, and turning it into a 6 figure coin. Conversely there are just as many stories of that 5 figure coin being turned into a 4 figure coin.
     
  6. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    What do you guys think? Gamble? Its only 50 bucks, right?
     
  7. blu62vette

    blu62vette Member

    It might be worth 50 for the learning experience.
     
  8. rev1774

    rev1774 Well-Known Member

    I've never dipped a coin so I can't say but for 50 it might be worth the risk...might.......
     
  9. au and ms coins

    au and ms coins Junior Member

    well in Au its worth like $37 or so, so you would be losing $11, if it goes really bad melt is $34 so you would be losing $14. Not that big of a gamble.
     
  10. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    what happens more often pray enlighten us?
     
  11. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    i have dipped a few coins of course they dont stay in my collection after that no matter how well they turn out.
     
  12. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    If this works well and reveals a dmpl coin, it'll probably be slabbed and sold. Or maybe I'll hold onto it since it would only be running me $80 total.
     
  13. ML94539

    ML94539 Senior Member

    Why don't you post before and after photo, I have some stained coins, not sure if I should send to NCS or try to dip on my own.
     
  14. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    Oh, I will. Place is only open friday and saturday, though, so expect a bump next weekend.
     
  15. rev1774

    rev1774 Well-Known Member

    Look forward to seeing before and after photos then~~
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    There are too many variables to answer that question. First of all you have the coin itself - not all of them are good candidates for dipping. Then you have the person doing it - they can experienced or inexperienced. Then you have the many different brands of coin dips - while all similar, they all react differently.

    Bottom line, it's always a risk to dip a coin. But if it is done properly it is perfectly acceptable.
     
  17. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    i forgot to tell you i have discovered a new natural way to tone coins using different kinds of plastic you can get different colors. isnt that amazing. :) also there is a special plastic for rainbow toning
     
  18. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I have a special plastic coffin for people who disseminate information like this. That's so everyone can laugh at the jerk.

    (.dedulcxe ynapmoc tneserP)

    Chris
     
  19. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    so you have plastic coffins for stuffing people? why dont you go and lie down in it yourself? i doubt people will find it a laughing matter
     
  20. SSG_Gonzo

    SSG_Gonzo Well-Known Member

    Just throwing my 2 cents in here. I am new to coin collecting and by new ive been at it for about 7 years so yeah I am rather new at it in comparasion to most here. GD knows most about these things and is a great source for information, another person you can talk to regarding conserving coins is BadThad.
     
  21. thecoinczar

    thecoinczar Member

    I will look forward to the before and after photographs!
     
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