1908 gold indian with motto verses same coin with no motto/with is the price differen

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  1. turtledove

    turtledove New Member

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  3. turtledove

    turtledove New Member

    I think i forgot to mention that this is a 10.00 indian, 1908..... Is the indian with the motto worth more than the one with no motto?
     
  4. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    The No Motto variety has a very small mintage of only 33,500 while the mintage of the Motto variety is 10x higher than that. The Redbook prices the No Motto variety a little higher.
     

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  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

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  6. turtledove

    turtledove New Member

    Thank you for your reply, my broker sent me a 1908 no motto coin, i did not like the eye appeal, thus sent it back, then he found me another 10.00$ indian, with motto........he seems to be so very anxious to make sure that this coin has a motto or no motto, thus it raised red flag as to why it mattered so much the coin i have is with or without. I have not been collecting coins that long, thus i rely on independent folks for their opinions. Thank you again.
     
  7. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    For what it's worth, checking Teletrade auctions over the past year, I see that there have been 14 1908 Motto coins offered for sale, and no No Motto coins.
     
  8. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    One has "In God We Trust" and the other doesn't. ;)
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    turtledove - you can look up stuff like this on the Heritage web site and then you know what the value differences are and don't have to rely on anybody.
     
  10. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    To register with Heritage, you have to provide a lot of personal information-- not really worth it if you don't intend on becoming a Heritage customer. Also, isn't one of the purposes of this web site to provide a place where collectors can get together with other collectors to discuss coins? Why just look at auction results if you have a chance to actually discuss the coins with fellow collectors? Especially if you're a novice, as the original poster seems to be.
     
  11. turtledove

    turtledove New Member

    Thank you, my broker seemed to be extremely interested in whether it has a motto or not. Mine does not...........
     
  12. turtledove

    turtledove New Member

    I wrote down the web site, you are correct, i am not interested in a whole lot of information to apply for, i occasionaly need feed back on certain coins and etc. Than you.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I give a man a fish and he will have 1 meal. I can teach that man to fish and he will always have a meal ;)

    And Heritage is arguably the single most use web site there is when it comes to coins. You can get more information from that 1 web site, about pretty much any coin, and for free, than you can just about any other web site.
     
  14. turtledove

    turtledove New Member

    You are my angel, thank you for the info. You are so on the mark about giving a man a fish, verses teaching the man how to fish, wish those who choose not to work, collectin welfare for ages would learn how to fish.
     
  15. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    You haven't taught the man to fish-- you've basically just given him directions to a members-only bait shop, and advised him not to ask advice from other fishermen.
     
  16. turtledove

    turtledove New Member

    I have another question for you folks, 1915 d ms67, graded by ngc. Buffalo nickel, my broker told me they make an error and should have charged me more, do they make mistakes like such?
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    No, I didn't tell him not to ask advice at all. I merely showed him/her a way to find information for him/herself.

    Luckily, turtledove took my comments exactly that way - which is how they were intended. You apparently, chose not to.
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Need some clarification here. Are you saying that you bought this 1915-D Buffalo nickel graded MS67 for X dollars from a coin dealer - and now that coin dealer is trying to tell you that you he did not charge you enough for that coin ?
     
  19. turtledove

    turtledove New Member

    Yes, he claims it is a special coin, i looked it up inthered book, and other sources, i saw one price for 400.00, some says higher and etc. The broker claims because it is a ms 67, it makes it rarer.
     
  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Well, tough question. And there's really two ways to look at this situation.

    1 - the dealer is trying to take advantage of you

    2 - the dealer made an honest mistake

    How you decide to handle it depends on you. If you have known this dealer for some time and have always found him to be an honest man then maybe he's telling the truth.

    But if you have only bought a few coins from him and hardly know the guy, he might just be trying to take advantage of you - it is not unheard of.

    Either way, you are under no obligation except your own conscience.

    But if you would like more help making the decision, then tell us what you paid for this 67 Buffalo - and then tell us how much more he wants from you. Those answers could go a long way in determining just what the guy is doing.

    And of course posting pics of the coin would be helpful.
     
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