Odd Jefferson Nickel...

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by hells.saints, Aug 26, 2011.

  1. hells.saints

    hells.saints New Member

    So, I'm an amateur coin collector. Today, I came into some money, so I went to my local bank and got $200 in nickels so I can search for war nickels. In one of the rolls, I found a 1912 V Nickel! Not bad, eh?

    In the same roll I found the V Nickel, I found an odd Jefferson nickel. This nickel is a 2008-D. It would probably grade around AU-58. It has a normal obverse with no issues. The reverse, however, looks copper. It has all of the fine details of Monticello present, such as all of the banisters in the railing along the roof, so it doesn't look like it had any post-mint alterations done to it, like some kid smashing a penny into it. I'm wondering if this could be an error of some kind.

    Odd.....copper-nickel obverse, copper reverse.
     
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  3. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Hi. Can you please post a picture? You will get a much more accurate response. Thats awesome about the vnickel!
     
  4. hells.saints

    hells.saints New Member

    I don't really have a good camera, and my scanner is in a sleeping family member's bedroom....

    Try this on for size!
    IMG-20110826-00072.jpg
     
  5. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Well. Your picture is not very good, as you probably know. It is possible it is missing a clad layer on the reverse. Which would make it a nice find. Are you able to weigh it?
     
  6. hells.saints

    hells.saints New Member

    My scale is not high quality, so take its measurements with a grain of salt.

    4.95 g
    .159 ozt
    3.18 dwt
    76.2 gn
     
  7. rdwarrior

    rdwarrior Junior Member

    Nickles are not "clad", they are solid alloy.
     
  8. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    It should weigh 5 grams, and I do not know the tolerance. edit: Wanted to add, I have never seen a Jefferson nickel missing a clad layer. I'm sure someone else wil lchime in on this thread.
     
  9. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    That would be why I have never seen one!
     
  10. vdbpenny1995

    vdbpenny1995 Well-Known Member

    From your weights, it appears to not be missing a layer because a nickel weighs 5 grams and yours weighed in at 4.95 and if it was missing a layer, id think it would weigh less than .05 than if it was a normal nickel.
     
  11. rdwarrior

    rdwarrior Junior Member

    As I said above,It cannot be missing a layer cause nickles do not have layers!!!!!
     
  12. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

    Awesome V nickels find! Now only if it was a 1912-S!!!!
     
  13. vdbpenny1995

    vdbpenny1995 Well-Known Member

    Oh wow your right. I didn't even realize that, I feel so stupid right now! :confused:
     
  14. Alex491

    Alex491 Boy Scout

    :welcome: to CT! It is a little hard to tell in your photos
     
  15. hells.saints

    hells.saints New Member

    I can't really do much more to help...

    Its the same size and thickness as a normal nickel. The obverse is copper-nickel. The edge on the reverse is copper-nickel. The edge is copper-nickel. The face of the reverse is copper.
     
  16. chip

    chip Novice collector

    possibly someone with a little extra time on his hands plated one side to see if he could,
     
  17. rrekowjr

    rrekowjr Member

    I think may be due to sintering during annealing. Nickels are 75% copper and overexposure can cause the metals to rearrange and the copper may surface. Most cases I have seen have been on both sides though. Also chemicals or even the environment are capable of this effect especially if exposed only on the one side.

    I cannot explain the weight issue though unless the scale is reading a little off as he said the scale is not high quality.
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Tolerance on the five cent piece is rather loose, I believe something like +/-.25 grams. 4.95 is WELL within tolerance.
     
  19. Lincoln Cents

    Lincoln Cents Cents not pennies

    Copper wash, maybe?
     
  20. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    Possibly plated outside the Mint. However, it could also be an improperly annealed planchet. Only a close inspection can tell which it is.
     
  21. Harpo

    Harpo Missing in Action

    An interesting Jefferson. Could it be toning? Hard to tell from those scans.

    And great find on the Lib Nick! Haven't seen one of those in circulation in....

    well....ever.
     
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