Stupid, Lazy or Crooks?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by YoYoSpin, Aug 25, 2011.

  1. YoYoSpin

    YoYoSpin Active Member

    Came across these three eBay auction listings yesterday:

    160642178123
    160642180562
    150653795028

    Note the title description: “…230th Marine Corps Silver Dollar 1OZ .999 Coin 2005”. Actually, these are 90% silver weighing in at 0.7736 ounces, the same as all US "silver dollar” coins. I contacted the seller yesterday, bringing this error to their attention. No response and no clarifications made to the auction narratives so far. eBay was contacted this afternoon – waiting to see what happens.
     
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  3. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    The title of your post made me believe you were talking about US politicians! :)

    Actually, probably all politicians.
     
  4. Get Some

    Get Some New Member

    I'm guessing all of the above.
     
  5. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Sounds more like ignorance to me - they simply don't know the coins are 90% silver, not 99.9% silver.

    Ignorance can be cured through education. Stupid is forever.
     
  6. sodude

    sodude Well-Known Member

    Probably stupid and lazy. If he/she looked at the certificate of authenticity, he would see it's 90% silver.
     
  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    no chance of those idits at eBay listening.

    I listed a Marlboro light as "Zippo-like."

    Meaning the style.

    They deleted it as a violation.


    But, I can advertise Chinese fakes.

    No problem there.
     
  8. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    I gotta agree with Hobo they just don't know any better, that's why we have to. :thumb: I see it all the time on ebay and sometimes I've wanted to pull people up and confront them on the issue. See, that's another reason why ebay should peruse this forum and hire a few of us. :D
     
  9. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    First, sorry Op if I derailed this thread if momentarily.

    I agree with Hobo, (I usually do), that they simply don't know any better. We all live and breathe coins, but many people are simply hustlers, and will sell you a coin one day, a washer tomorrow, and a used car on Saturday. They try, but are not interested like we are, so have no urge to have our base knowledge.

    The more you know in life, I think you will find more and more salesmen are simply that, SALESmen. They really don't care what or why they sell, as long as it sells.

    Chris

    P.S. This can actually be a good thing. If you know more than the seller, there is sometimes opportunity to profit from their ignorance.
     
  10. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    Especially if you don't tell them.
     
  11. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    +1
     
  12. YoYoSpin

    YoYoSpin Active Member

    Just got the following message from eBay:

    "Thanks for reporting these listings to us.

    I sent your report to our Coin Community Watch group and they agreed
    with your assessment of the coins. As a result, I removed the listings.

    Again, thank you for your report. We appreciate your help in keeping
    eBay a safe and reputable forum to conduct business.

    Have a great day and thanks for using eBay.

    Sincerely,

    Judith
    eBay Customer Support"
     
  13. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Surprising and sad at the same time. I have reported obvious, horribly evident fakes to Ebay over and over again and have never received such a response. You report what likely could have been just an honest error on a listing for a real coin and they yank the listing.

    So I guess fakes are ok as long as you don't try to overstate the PM content. :(

    Chris
     
  14. YoYoSpin

    YoYoSpin Active Member

    I think the tipping point on these three auctions was that the seller was non-responsive and apparently unwilling to change/clarify the ads on his own, after having been prompted.
     
  15. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Thank God there's folks around willing to step up and protect others from possibly paying close to silver melt ($42.00) for one of these things!

    Say.............. don't these usually sell for around $45?

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/MARINE-CORPS-230TH-ANNIVERSARY-SILVER-DOLLAR-UNC-/110730590929?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item19c80ebad1

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/2005-MARINE-CORPS-230TH-ANIV-PROOF-SILVER-DOLLAR-/120764519128?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item1c1e2052d8

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/2005-MARINE-CORPS-230TH-ANIV-PROOF-SILVER-DOLLAR-/120764519128?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item1c1e2052d8

    By golly, thats way above silver melt! Or was this was just an "intelligence" thing? After all, can't have stupid people selling stuff on the bay now can we?
     
  16. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    Thanks for reporting this and getting the items yanked. Someone was likely going to be ripped off. The problem with fraud in general, no matter how seemingly innocuous, is that it does damage to the marketplace.
     
  17. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

  18. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Thank goodness we have all you watchdogs out there protecting us from our own stupidity.
     
  19. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    The nerve of the guy!
    I guess he's learned his lesson about ignoring powerful people!
     
  20. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    I kind of doubt his/her feelings were hurt or that there was significant loss as a result. Those who a) do not play by the rules, and b) fail to make corrections in a timely fashion deserve little in the way of defense.
     
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