Accugrade used to grade coins at their table... As I'm sure redwin will tell you all about as he does in every third post... But they are long since out of business.
I had at least one coin not come back the same as when I had sent it--but it was because I had not used secure enough packaging. The $20 Liberty had gotten additional marks when being shipped. My theory of what is going on with reports of coins not coming back the same, is something similar as what happened to me; or the possibility in the distant past of TPGs mishandling coins, or getting a group lost while in receiving; my other explanation is that the coins submitted were not that great to begin with; there are a lot of dealers whose memory may be fading, or who thought their coins were "lock" as higher grades, or they did not see problem marks and do not want to admit to others that they alone were responsible for misjudging. These are the same type of dealers IMO who routinely tell customers two different things when buying and selling. When buying, they say the coin "has problems", is AU when they know it is BU, or is a common coin when they know it is a better date, etc., etc. There are many possiblities.
You are really correct, Accugrade or Mr. Alan Hager will certified your coin in your present in Baltimore Coin Show. Maryland. And 100 percent No switching coin will gonna happen on his table. Yes, I think they will not come back anymore to this kind of bussiness after winning a good pay back from those peoples or company to settles that lawsuit in their favor..With my experiences to all of them in Baltimore Coin Show for 4 Years between 1996-1999 of Course I will never trust them specially those their representatives that I talk too. Only NGC peoples is Honesty with me that during that year they are very very good to talk too and good communication on me. So in short, I will only allowed my coins to be certified by NGC if I wanted too. Thank you.
Yes and depends what the value of coin to be entrusted to them. if you are very careless to handed 10 1893s Morgan Silver Dollar with your opinion is MS 65 then go ahead give it to them without a witness or papers work . So in my opinion and I stick to my own rules when it comes to a big dollar NEVER TRUST ANYONE...That's all. Baltimore Coin Show in MARYLAND is Large crowd. Mr. Alan Hager will certified your coin in your present....And also will give you advised too with regards of your coins.That I do not see in the last 4 years in any TPG attends on that show..I always visit that show because my home is just very close on that area. I am a Baltimorean live in Baltimore County.
Hey Redwin, when you die, your whole collection will sell for a fraction of what its worth because nobody cares about accugrade slabs. But hey, if you want your inheritors to get ripped off...
Are you using a speech to text program to type your posts? It seems like it. Anyway, here you go, just slab them yourself! http://www.tcbulk.com/scripts/prodview.asp?idproduct=407
That is your own opinion and you are entitled to it. I know my way.. That is why I own these UNIQUE COIN certified by the Inventor of slabbing coin & cards.Without his Invention I think there will be NO TPG until now..So the credit should give it to Mr. Alan Hager on his invention and itroduced it to the market 1984. ACG, fllow by PCGS 1986 and 1987 NGC.
The thing is, people who don't know coins won't know them any better when they're slabbed either, meaning the same people who will take advantage of an uneducated seller of raw coins will take advantage of the same seller with graded coins because they can. If you want to leave your heirs something valuable, leave them the knowledge and ability to learn for themselves what you left them so that they're prepared to either keep, expand, or sell the collection when the time comes. The average non collector will just as likely take $20 for graded 09 S VDB as they would a slabbed one and be none the wiser.
TPG'ers earned their reputations and integrity by honestly grading and authenticating coins and currency for years. To falsify, switch, or lie about a coins condition, value, authenticity makes very little sense. I am speaking from experience. As a newbie type collector I sent in a five figure coin and the TPG'er did a honest and fair evaluation in my and CT members evaluations. Yes always document what you send in with photos and scans, and analyses of diagnostics you have done. That way if any happens you'll have some evidence, and proof of what you sent in. That's really only common sense. zeke
:thumb:I agreed with you and a very smart thinking too. Well documented before you sent inn. But if we are talking now the value of coin reaches closed to a Million US Dollar or either 50K I will not going to shipped it for authentication for afraid of Coin Switching, or Stolen. So best thing to authenticate that is walked through on Coin Show that everyone watching them. To certified and authenticate the coin will not going to eat more hours. Actually if the coin grader is very expertise and professional it takes only Half Hour or less to certified it. Believe me. :smile
Agreed, That is why I teaches my heirs what to do next if something wrong happen to me.Step by step in the right direction not to be fooled by any con artist. The seller must knows the buyer reputation before you show your valuables coin. or Show the Money first before you see the film/movie... he he he. Please Pay FIrst before Filled up your GAS TANK.
Redwin, I don't think a single coin you've posted here is worth four figures, let alone 50k+. So you've yet to explain why you have your coins slabbed by a company worth no reputation to speak of.
Ha Ha ha! You make me laugh louder kid...Sorry, you still young to know the truth...Lawsuit , Lawsuit.. Go check it.. Who Invented the coin slab in US?
I don't care who invented it, the point remains the same. Accugrade has no reputation as a major third party grader. Just because you invent something doesn't make it the best, or even good, let alone the industry standard.
Well that was a rude and ignorant response. I had three coins sold by Heritage at their April 29 to May 2 Central States Numismatic Society's annual convention in the Chicago, Illinois area. In their catalogs they list coin, after coin, after coin which would make your hypothetical 1893-O Morgans look paltry and worthless. Each of these coins was authenticated and graded by on of the three most respected third party graders, TPG. These coins were and are worth tens of hundreds of thousands of dollars. Do you think the owners of these coins would risk anything like what you say would happen to them when they submitted them to a TPG company? I absolutely doubt that. So get real and trust these TPG'ers. Protect and authenticate your coins for your own benefit and that of your heirs. zeke