1846 Russian Ruble w/o mint mark

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Otter, Aug 19, 2011.

  1. Otter

    Otter Likes shiny objects

    I have an 1846 Nicholas I ruble w/o any mint mark (i.e., no "cna"). I haven't found any other examples of that coin without the mintmark? Too rare or too common?

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    Craig
     
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  3. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    I must to see a picture. Please share it with us.
     
  4. Otter

    Otter Likes shiny objects

    Here are the pics

    As you can see there is no mint mark below the date..
     

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  5. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    Krause: 168.2.
    One rouble 1846, mint mark: MW, mintage - 511000 pcs. Silver .868, 20,73 g. Minted in Warsaw.
     
  6. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Can you please post a better closeup photo of the coin otter? I don't quite like what I'm seeing as this unfortunately is one of the more popular coins that are counterfeited.
     
  7. Otter

    Otter Likes shiny objects

    Its Has been sitting in a small personal collection for several years in a bag of foreign coins. It's a friend of a friends of mine and I have given it back. If there is a possibility of it being relatively valuable, I can retrieve it.
     
  8. princeofwaldo

    princeofwaldo Grateful To Be eX-I/T!

    Agree, the reverse in particular has tone that looks kind of fake. Whenever I see a coin with heavy tone around the devices and especially legends, but with almost flawless fields missing even a single little dig, the bogus alarm bells go off in my head.
     
  9. Otter

    Otter Likes shiny objects

    It was a lousy picture taken with my cell phone. It defibetly felt like it was made of silver. Is this possibly a valuable coin worthy of being counterfitted?
     
  10. princeofwaldo

    princeofwaldo Grateful To Be eX-I/T!

    It's easier to keep track of the symptoms of all counterfeit coins, than it is the specific types and dates that have been faked. But to answer your question, even coins that aren't that rare or valuable get counterfeited, if only because many collectors fail to realize that even a 50% premium over melt makes faking the coin worthwhile and the counterfeiter benefits form the lack of scrutiny by the buyer since it isn't a rare coin. That's not to say the coin you have is necessarly fake, really have to look at the specific coin and examine it with a loup to determine authenticity.
     
  11. Otter

    Otter Likes shiny objects

    Got it. Well I looked at a small, generally low-value collection for a friend who is doing it for a relative. I identified a single Morgan-CC, a gold 10G from the Netherlands, and this coin as something if/when the decide to liquidate that they should place greater scrutiny on -- if not just the silver content. Sounds like in this rough condition it might only be worth 2x melt, so I will pass on the info and leave it at.

    Thanks
     
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