Coin Restoration

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by tempe_muse, Apr 10, 2006.

  1. tempe_muse

    tempe_muse New Member

    I have recently purchased some ancient coins, unsearched, which are being sent directly from Rome. However, being coin enthusiasts, I wondered if there were any special tricks of the trade that I should know. As someone who has studied archaeology, I know how to use those methods, but for my own personal use, I don't think that I will be permitted to use the lab (added to that, they are unlikely to be very valuable coins... I just felt like dabbling! ;) But I would like to do a good job using the methods people usually use. So, with that by way of explanation, I place myself at your mercy - how does one clean coins with easily accessible products and instruments?
     
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  3. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    The best so far recommanded by a fair group of people to clean such coins is to use olive oil. Yes, your typical cooking olive oil. That should be ok with the coins, except you will need to soak them in for a good 4 months+ or so before you can see the result. The main reason is because olive oil is a slow burning acid, which doesn't do a harsh reaction like typical cleaning products.

    Once that is up, you use acetone to clear the oil residues. I am sure there are people who have done the same procedure. :)
     
  4. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Hello tempe_muse

    You should try olive oil. If your coins are really ancient (I mean roman or so) and full oft dust and/or encrusted, put them soaking into olive oil for a while (a long while actually, it can last for weeks) and then remove gently the dust with a wooden dental pick, under a magnifying glass. Avoid metal, acid, etc... that could ruin your coins

    And show us the result, please...

    Good luck
    Cucumbor
     
  5. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Hello gxseries

    You've been faster than I've been to say quite the same thing than you. Funny, isn't it ?

    Cucumbor
     
  6. happycobra

    happycobra Senior Member

    I wouldn’t recommend using acetone on copper or bronze coins. It can produce some odd colors.

    Then again…
     
  7. AnemicOak

    AnemicOak Coin Hoarder

    As others have said Olive Oil is one of the tried & true methods.

    Check into a couple of the uncleaned coins Yahoo groups, you'll get lots of help there. As far as them being unsearched, unless you're buying directly from the diggers they've most likely been gone through before you get them. Even the diggers know to keep an eye out for anything gold or silver & pull it out. The wholesalers over there are well trained in going through looking for anything of huge value, although sometimes folks get lucky because if it's to dirty they'll miss something. Although from your statements it sounds like you get that most if not all aren't likely to be valuable.

    I tried these uncleaneds from some of the more reputable places recommended by the folks on one of the uncleaned coins groups & after a year they're pretty much either coins that are worn smooth or with very little detail. Out of about 100 I think we were able to ID 5 or 6, which wasn't considered a terrible ratio. Not worth it to me (I'd rather buy a couple nice coins), but lots of folks have fun with it & some do quite well. Just stay away from the eBay sharks with "gold found" in their ads.
     
  8. tempe_muse

    tempe_muse New Member

    Thanks for all this information! As I said, I am used to being well equipped and wanted to try some on my own. I don't have any expectations about getting super coins, but really just wanted the experience of doing something while I have some time off.
    But the olive oil sounds like the go... I'll post when (and if) I get any results that exceed expectations!
    Thanks again!
     
  9. rsthellens

    rsthellens New Member

    soak the coin in warm water with dish washing detergent for a half hour or so. then gently scrub the coin with a small bronze brush (available at any hardware store) to remove the heavy deposits. repeat the soaking and scrubbing if nessasary. finish the cleaning with a tooth pick and tooth brush. thats how i cleaned mine and they turned out wonderful. sounds crazy but it works, try one coin. way better than the 4 + month method. next time i have them out of the vault i will post a picture.
     
  10. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    This method will ruin the coins. I strongly advise against it regardless of the claims and recommendations.
     
  11. jaykup

    jaykup New Member


    YIKES!:eek:
     
  12. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Holly Cow !!

    Try the same on a lincoln cent or a Morgan dollar. If you're OK with the result, go on, you will be glad with your ancient. Otherwise, stay away
    I'm sorry to say, the coins will be ruined
    For myself I don't even touch them with anything metallic.
    Cucumbor
     
  13. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    http://www.cointalk.org/search.php?searchid=182425

    Here are some posts which address cleaning ancient coins. Unfortunately the use of a brass brush is required in some cases. I've had remarkable luck using the brush, pick, olive oil, and an electrolosis (sp) outfit.

    Here are sone coins I've cleaned.

    Take Care
    Bone/Ben

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  14. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Hello Bone

    I'm sorry I have to disagree
    I really think that the use of metal or electrolysis affects the surface of the coin. The result is that you remove all the crust and the dust but also part of the coin itself. More, as the patina is not a deposit but the result of a chemical reaction between the coin and its environment, if you remove it, you remove part of the metal. And some details of the engraving can be lost forever.

    Cucumbor
    PS : I hope my pinguin english is understandable
     
  15. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Oh, no problem Cucumbor. I understood what it was your saying with no problems :) I agree with you there is at times a terrible trade-off when using harsher methods of cleaning coins. My point was in the worst case situation, harsh methods are used.

    B
     
  16. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Oh, thank you Bone ! :goof:
    Cucumbor
     
  17. Islamic-coins

    Islamic-coins New Member

    Here is a method I saw first hand while walking in the ancient souks of Aleppo in Syria, I saw some coins dealers there cleaning their coins with a lemon !! they bring a lemon ( with thin skin ), cut it in half and use the half with the surface of the lemon down to pass it over the coin, it is really amazing ! you get INSTANT new look of this old dirty coin !
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yeah, it's the citric acid in the lemon that does it. Problem is it damages the coin at the same time.
     
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