Finally... a gold cob from the new world

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by AussieCollector, Dec 18, 2022.

  1. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    Hi all

    As some of you may be aware (based on previous posts), I have been on the hunt for Spanish colonial gold. While I have some Spanish gold in my collection from the 17th and 18th centuries, I did not have a cob from the colonies (only a milled gold coin from the colonies, and a cob from Seville).

    As everyone is aware, colonial Spanish cobs have been and continue to be somewhat prohibitively priced. But, sometimes you just have to prioritise appropriately for something you really really want.

    As it turned out, I really really wanted it. And I prioritised.

    With that in mind, I'm very proud to announce I am the owner of a Bogota, Columbia, 2 Escudos. Although I bought it a little while ago, I didn't want to announce it until I had it in the hand - it took some time, but it finally arrived.


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    2 Escudos
    Mint: Bogota, Colombia
    Authority: Phillip IV, assayer A below mintmark NR to left
    Obverse: full shield with clear (N)RA to left
    Reverse: full but slightly doubled cross-and-tressure, encrustation in crevices
    Year: ~1640
    Weight: 6.67 grams
    Catalogue: S-B20; KM-4.1.

    Thanks for reading.

    Feel free to share your Spanish colonials, silver or gold.

    AC
     
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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    What a beauty!!congrats,possibly some gold eventually. Screenshot_20221115-165131_eBay.jpg Screenshot_20221114-075431_eBay.jpg Screenshot_20220702-075927_Photos.jpg Screenshot_20220702-080218_Photos.jpg Screenshot_20220702-080222_Photos.jpg
     
  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Another 1783 El Cazador Coin.
    1783ElCazadorOBV.jpg 1783ElCazadorREV.jpg
     
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  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Congrats ! I'd say you found yourself a nice one there as it's often difficult to find one with a strike that nice !
     
  7. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Nice specimen...and yes the hammer did take a bounce ..Ive have had several cobs, that showed doubling from that bounce.
    I have had the pleasure to meet as well visit Mel Fisher . His Key West display of the Atocha treasures are unbelievable! There's something special about pierces of eight and gold reales.
     
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  8. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    Thanks all, and thanks for the posts of coins.

    Thank you sir, I'm quite pleased with it. It's got quite a lot of detail for a 2 escudos cob, so am very happy.

    You met Mel Fisher? Fantastic. I'm sure his display is mind boggling.
     
  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Yes back in October of 1989 in Key West.....and actually purchased a cob from his main Captain of his fleet. I purchased a cob from the Johanna wreak from him.
    This cob was later sold to Lord M here on CT.
     
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  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Aquired this last evening 20221218_170011.jpg 20221218_170001.jpg
     
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  11. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    That's a beautiful 2 escudos cob! It is well centered on both sides, along with clear mint mark and assayer initial.

    My example is cruder, and while I thought it had a date (wishful thinking), it really doesn't, except for the first two digits, with the lower parts visible, "16" on the reverse.

    The obverse has clear parts of the NR to the left of the shield, with a very mushy/weak A below. The denomination, II, is very bold to the right.

    The coin does show evidence of rusted dies, as well as a die shift strike, particularly on the obverse.

    This is a coin that I purchased around 1990.

    Colombia, Bogota, 2 escudos, NRA, c 1630s, Philip IV.

    6.7 grams


    D-Camera Colombia Bogota 2 escudos NRA c 1630s Phil IV 6.7g Austin 2-25-22.jpg
     
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