Spanish 50 PTAS question

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Dumanyu, Apr 7, 2006.

  1. Dumanyu

    Dumanyu World Coin Collector

    I have a 50 PTAS Francisco Franco coin from Spain in XF condition 1957(58) KM# 788 in the 2006 World Coin Catalog. In the listing for this particular coin it has the typical listings. On a second entry just below it has a different listing for the same coin with higher values. Just below this line there is a note, about Variety of edge with the words Una-Libre-Grande. Question does this note apply to the above higher value listing? I hope so, cuz my coin has that wording on the edge.

    Please Advise.

    Fred :confused:
     
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  3. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Hi Fred, and a belated [​IMG] to CoinTalk.

    Yes, the note below the second entry applies to that entry. Congratulation! :thumb:

    How about treating the rest of us peons to some pictures? :cool:

    BTW for the benefit of those who aren't familiar with modern Spanish coiins, what Fred is referring to by the double date is that the authorization date is prominently shown on the coin, and the actual mintage date apperars in very tiny numbers inside two six-pointed stars, which were the Madrid mint mark prior to 1981.
     
  4. Dumanyu

    Dumanyu World Coin Collector

    50 PTAS Coin

    Roy,
    Thank you for confirming what I have long suspected. :high5: Thanks again, one last question, were the other coins in this issue of plain edge? Just trying to eliminate possibilities. If you'd like to see the pics, use the link below. Any idea on grade?

    Fred
    WINS# 616

    http://groups.msn.com/CoinNutsPlace/dumanyuscoins.msnw?Page=2
     
  5. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    I'm not an expert on Spanish coins, and my first reaction to the Krause entry is that the standard is plain edge and the edge inscription is the exception. However, the eentry in Krause is not really that clear, and it is possible that there is an edge inscription on all of the coins, with the one specified being a variant.

    Hopefully there is a forum member with another example, who can compare his/her edge with yours.
     
  6. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    As far as I know, the "default" type is the one with the edge inscription UNA GRANDE LIBRE. The more expensive "error" type says UNA LIBRE GRANDE. So the only difference is the order of the words ...

    Christian
     
  7. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Thanks for the clarification Chris. I thought it might be something like that. :)
     
  8. Dumanyu

    Dumanyu World Coin Collector

    50 PTAS Coin

    I am cut to the quick, I had a feeling that was the case as well.

    Oh well, life is pain....you just get used to it.
    :headbang:

    Fred
     
  9. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Error edge lettering on Spanish coins.

    Christian,it sounds like that these inscription errors could be worth a lot of money.There are collectors over here that are prepared to pay a premium for the New Zealand 1969 'No Hyphen' Captain Cook Bicentenary $1 coin.

    Aidan.
     
  10. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Definitely. I don't have the latest SCWC, and the one I have does not list that variety yet. But another catalog (about five years old) says the value is about €25 even in "fine", about €80 in VF, and much more in better grades. The same coin and year without the error is worth a one digit amount. :)

    Christian
     
  11. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    2006 Krause says:

    Normal: 1957(58) 50¢ F to $3.50 BU
    UNA - LIBRE - GRANDE edge variety - $250 XF to $700 BU

    Yeah, I'd say that's a premium.[​IMG]
     
  12. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    I knew that I could have been right about the edge inscription errors.The Malaya & British Borneo 50c. coins with the milled edges are worth quite a lot more than the same coins with the grooved security edges,as the milled edged coins are errors.The same thing applies to the early Hong Kong Queen Elizabeth II 5c. & 10c. coins as well.

    Aidan.
     
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