Ngc stated artificial, pcgs original on same coins

I have more to send PCGS in the next few weeks as I bought a large estate with some great coins. Jim

 

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Boxeldercoin, thanks for that info. I think you cracking the coins out was a good call. I think if you sent those coins into PCGS in the NGC slabs, they would not have been graded.

Can you tell me (us) the best way to crack an NGC slab without damaging the coins? Is it risky cracking a slab? Have you ever damaged a coin?
Please give as much detail as possible!

 

Use a tin snip and cut the edge all the way around the slab. Then carefully lift the plastic off the coin. Jim

 

Thanks for that info, I will try that.

That '59 obverse looks a little bit questionable to my eye -- however it might be the color balance is off in the photo.

The rest all look NT.

 

Sorry, Thad. I love you, man. But that's just wrong. Been at this a while.
Lance.

 

Wow...PCGS gave that 59 a numerical grade?

I've never seen a Franklin naturally tone as such, not saying it's impossible, just improbable.

 

NGC guarantees the coins they grade too. Now what do you plan on doing when at some time in the future you have a "bad experience" with PCGS? Give up on slabbing or just call it quits on coins altogether? Because if you keep collecting and submitting to PCGS it will happen eventually.

 

No I will not become a non believer of grading coins nor will I give up on grading coins but at this time I believe PCGS is doing a better job. I heard NGC is 45 days on coins sent to be slabbed, some say they are busy and some say they are under staffed, either way it makes me wonder if they are doing the best they can or just so-so. Also why do PCGS coins bring higher prices time and time again at auctions? Why does the Blue sheets (gray sheet for certified coins sight un-seen) list higher prices for the same coin for pcgs slabs over NGC slabs. The forum is so we can discuss our views on the hobby, no one is right and no one is wrong, just lots of opinions to make you think. Jim

 

Actually if there was some overgrading here it was by PCGS, not NGC

 

I just sent in 2 Pandas and 3 classic commemoratives and there on the way back, It was a 10 day turn around for me and I just send them in 2-3 times a year.

 

cracking an NGC slab

You can search previous threads describing cracking a slab. My technique for cracking an NGC slab is as follows:

1
Place the slab into a plastic baggie (just to keep anything from hitting the floor if the slab pops open unexpectedly).

2
Put the slab into a vice squeezing top to bottom or side to side.

3
Tighten the vice until you hear the slab seam "pop"

4
Repeat the last two steps until the slab seam is broken around the majority of the circumference.

5
Open it like a clam shell & remove the insert with coin.

 

Box, I'm glad you got what you wanted and it came as a positive experience for you.

BUT

Based on everything I've read here, I've lost a little confidence in PCGS. NGC obviously had a reason for grading artificially toned and would trust them more when buying a graded/toned coin from now on.