1795 Anti Slavery Token - Condor?

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  1. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Gone for a few days and I almost missed a good Conder token thread.

    Let me make one correction, this token is definitely a mule and the obverse and reverse dies belong to two different organizations. The die calling for the reform of Parliment is actually a reverse die used for the tokens of the London Corresponding Society which as mentioned was focused toward reforms of Parliament with the aim of instituting govenment ideas similar to some of those espoused by the French Revolution. As you might expect they were not well liked by the government and were usually being investigated for sedition or treason. The other die is also a reverse die, this time for the tokens of the British Anti-slavery Society a completely separate group. These dies were muled by William Lutyche of Birmingham for the purpose of selling them to collectors. The mule comes with six different edge inscriptions, from tokens issued for at least four different counties. One of them, 289d is common. Two are scarce, and three of them are very rare (about R-6 on the Sheldon scale, 13 to 30 pieces known.) The piece in question here, 289a, is one of the very rare ones. Congratulations
     
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  3. campbellcabs

    campbellcabs New Member

    (c. 1795) Princess of Wales Anti-Slavery Token, Extremely Fine, softly struck.

    Hi Guys,

    Im a newbie here and stumbled across this thread while doing some research!

    As I was interested in collecting coins when I was a child, my grandfather gave me some old coins that he had. I kept these safe over the years and finally put them into the attic when I moved into my own house. There they stayed until they were forgotten about... Last night I was clearing out some old things and I rediscovered them! They immediately gave me a renewed interest in researching their history. As a boy I could never trace their past due to the limited resources available but the internet has changed that completely. I was quickly able to identify one as a 1795 Princess of Wales Anti-Slavery ‘conder'!

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    Do you know if this coin is rare or valuable?

    Thanks for your help :)
     
  4. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    Terrific historical copper piece. Congrats.
     
  5. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Welcome to the forum campbellcabs. I've never come across that particular Conder token before, that said, it would be a very low grade but you never know how much it could be worth unless you have the book and I'm sure someone will be along later. good luck on your find! Bump!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_of_Brunswick
     
  6. campbellcabs

    campbellcabs New Member

    Hi Fretboard, thanks for your reply. What book are you referring to? Sorry if that's a stupid question. I'm a total beginner!
     
  7. campbellcabs

    campbellcabs New Member

    How do you go about having your collection assessed?
     
  8. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    I'm not totally familiar with the name, but I think it's D&H plus something else. Someone will be around later to correct me, I'm sure of it. Also, there's another place on this forum and it might be better to list your question. "What's it Worth" section, may be better but just see how this goes, you never know. I forget the posters name on here, he knows alot and his name is conder something or other. Sorry kid, I'm getting old and losing my memory. :D
     
  9. campbellcabs

    campbellcabs New Member

    Yes I think youre right, somebody emailed me this about it earlier...

    'National Series (Middlesex) Princess of Wales copper Conder halfpenny token dated 1795. Obverse: Three-quarters bust of the Princess of Wales to left: “PRINCESS OF WALES”. Reverse: Two hands joined in friendship: “MAY SLAVERY & OPPRESSION CEASE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD”'.

    D&H Middlesex No: 983. Diameter 28mm
     
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