Large Cent Grading Help

There probably isn't enough 'RD' for it to be designated as 'RB' on a slab by PCGS, NGC, or ANACS... But, either way, it's a fantastic example along with the N8 variety.

-Brian

 

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Don't confuse the grades provided as EAC grades. This coin might be tpg AU58, but EAC VF grade. I do not know EAC grading. I see nothing wrong with sending it in for grading, but I would not be shocked if it came back in a genuine holder. In my opinion there are some nice coins in genuine holders. At the same time I would not be shocked if this coin came back a low MS. It is a nice looking coin.

 

I would get an EAC grade and CC ranking by the big guys with a coin this nice. It's nice to get your coin recognized in case it ever disappears. It would make it harder to move if it's provenance is known. Why wouldn't you want to see where it ranks?

 

I will check the auction catalog later and see if they have a picture to compare it too. For the census stuff you would not send it to a TPG like pcgs or ngs, you would have to get in touch with one of the EAC guys who keep the census, Bob Grellman, John Wright, Robinson. Are you a member of EAC?

 

No, I'm not. My grandmother left some coins to me when she passed away quite a few years ago, and I just now really started to research them. This one was the nicest of them was why I started here. There are also a couple of half cents and 4 more large cents, along with some silver pieces from the early to late 1800's. I'll probably start digging into them soon. Thanks for everyone who has replied, I know you can't give a accurate grade just by looking at pictures, but I think I have learned alot from all y'alls wisdom!

 

After viewing your photographs you downloaded I'm changing my grading opinion to MS63. Lovely coin. Good luck with it.

 

That coin is not the coin from the EAC sale, and in my opinion your coin is nicer. Without having the coin in hand I would say it's AU55 by EAC standards but it could be MS. Either way it's probably tied for first or tied for third best coin.

I think your question about grading depends on what you want to do with it. If I was going to sell it I would probably get in touch with one of the EAC dealers and consign it without sending it anywhere. A lot of the early copper collectors don't care about the slab or the tpgs grade as EAC has a different standard.

It's a wonderful coin, I would love to see some pictures of the other large cents you have!!!

 

Though you may believe this is the nicest piece out of your grandmother's collection, you may be wrong. Although this coin is very old and in fairly decent shape, you may have some Silver composed coins in worse shape that could be worth $1000+... In other words, you may have a key date coin. Please post photos of some other coins and we will give our honest opinions on the value, grade, and/or possible die varieties.

-Brian

 

When I first got them (It's been almost 20 years now!) I checked the "Red Book" (which was the only coin collecting book I knew of) to see if there were any that were rare. Nothing really stood out at me, so I just put them up and kind of forgot about them. A couple of weeks ago I was cleaning out the top of a closet and I came across the box and looked at them again. Now with the internet it makes researching so much easier, I had no idea about the different varities and stuff before I dug into it. Like I said, I have not done any research in the others yet, but I can list what I have and maybe someone can help and tell me if something might be worth looking at first. And I really do appreciate all the advice everyone here gives, y'all seem to be a great group of people!

Half-Cents: 1804 & 1851

Large Cents: 1802 (In very worn cond), the 1827 already pictured, 1838, 1847, and 1852.

An 1863 "Army & Navy" Civil War token

An 1867 2 Cent piece

Three Cent pieces: 1851, 1865 & 1867 (Nickel)

An 1829 5 Cent piece

Dimes from 1834, 1845, and 1897

Half Dollar from 1901

And a couple of half pennies (maybe from England?) from 1792 and 1797.

If anything there sounds promising, I sure would appreciate the knowledge!

 

I don't believe I said that. While I am not into the varieties as much as others I would probably still send it to PCGS first(I just like em better). Then you can always work on finding the EAC grade with some of the big guns. I do not know EAC grading, but depending on where you start I can see a couple of deductions. Nothing that makes it less of a nice coin.

 

Ok. Thanks.

 

The 1802 can be attributed with a photo, the 1838 would be a maybe. The late date large cent's are very difficult to attribute by photo as the attribution marks are more subtle. Are the other large cents, other then the 1802, in similiar condition?

 

No, the one I've posted here in this thread is by far in the best condition. The 1802 is very worn (the head is basically worn smooth and the reverse is smooth along the edge, there is some visible in the center), and the others have definitely circulated. I could put some quick scans in when I get home from work and post them. Do you think I should start another thread, or just continue posting here in this thread?

The 1804 Half Cent is in pretty good shape, it has the cross 4 and stems, so it looks like a pretty common coin from what I have seen. Does that sound right?

 

For a condition census coin, I believe you'll get the most value from EAC, even if it's not the highest grade. Most EACers like the coin in the copper so edges can be examined. I've heard and used the phrase, "Don't entomb the coin" in this respect. I like TPGs for those coins with which i am not familiar and are frequently counterfeited like Charlotte Gold. But not copper!

 

For some coins I just think the tomb is the best way to preserve it. You are starting to see more and more copper in the tombs - a few sites I watch used to only ever have raw coins, now more and more of them are starting to contain plastic. I think that is mainly because buyers are looking more for a tpg grade versus a EAC grade. To your hard core EAC'ers it probably does not make a difference since they will(or might) crack the coin out of the slab anyway. Just my humble opinion.

 

i dont have a problem with slabs unless #1 it has a lettered edge or #2 it wasnt even worth slabbing in the first place like the supposed 1795 S-76a that was F2 with corrosion marshall posted a while back. it sounds like it could be worth having slabbed but not everyone is satisfied with the end results.