Is this TPG company real?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by fusiafinch, Jul 28, 2011.

  1. fusiafinch

    fusiafinch Member

    I see coins being sold on eBay in slabs from National Numismatic Certification. Is this a legitimate company? If so, how reliable are they?

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  3. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    No, National Numismatic Certification is NOT a legitimate TPG.
     
  4. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Define legitimate? Every grading company is real. There are no guidelines to becoming a grading company.
    Have they cornered the market like PCGS or NGC? no
    Is their grading considered accurate among collectors? no
    Should you always buy the coin and not the slab? yes

    - a message from GGS (gbroke grading service)
     
  5. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Well, they do have a website:

    http://www.nnccoingrading.com/

    Of course, that doesn't make them legitimate (in the sense that the OP is interested in). I guess in the overall breakdown of TPG's, they reside somewhere in the middle of the third tier (self slabbers).
     
  6. McBlzr

    McBlzr Sr Professional Collector

    Maybe we should form the CTGS :yes:

    CoinTalk Grading Service ;)
     
  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    It is absolutely real and absolutely a legitimate company. And centsles (eBay name, don't know his real name) does a fine job of overgrading every one of his own coins. BTW, for as lousy as his personal grading is, his customer service at least used to be top notch.
     
  8. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    His website still shows the 2010 calendar, so who knows?
     
  9. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I may be mistaken but I thought centsles was SGS (Star Grading Service), not NNC.
     
  10. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    I think 'aboncom' is SGS and 'centsles' is NNC. They all sort of "blend" together after awhile...
     
  11. LindeDad

    LindeDad His Walker.

    Quote from their web site.

    "Limitation of Liability for Grading: All parties understand and agree that the professional opinion required in grading coins involves NNC's subjective judgment. Consequently, National Numismatic Certification, LLC. makes no warranty or representation and shall have no liability whatsoever to the customer for the grade assigned by NNC to any coin."

    Guy used to have great service on eBay and when he was selling PCGS graded coins I bought from him. Gues he just got tired of paying to have a service that would guarentee their grades do the grading.
     
  12. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Yeah, I think you're right.
     
  13. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    +1
     
  14. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    NNC is a legitimate TPG which has been in business since before 2006.

    However, they are not necessarily a "respected" TPG which is the difference between them and "perceived" real TPG's.
    I say "perceived" because lots of folks "repect" their opinions which may or may not be factual. I recently received a coin graded at MS63 which previously had been graded as Genuine Cleaned. I passed it around to some "respected" dealers who graded it from MS64 to MS65.

    So, it becomes a puyre matter of respect vs legitimacy.

    Oh, I guess a cash back grade guarantee has something to do with it as well even though the "cash back" never coincides with their published price guides but thats a different story.
     
  15. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    And I suspect he decided he could make more money deceiving noobs by over-grading coins.
     
  16. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Not legit, not reliable, not genuine.

    Basement grader!
     
  17. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Yep, since 2002. Legitimate, just not respected.
     
  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Is this the guy that won the PCGS grading contest a few years back?
     
  19. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    Top 3 are ANACS, NGC & PCGS. No special order but I do perfer the older white slabs from ANACS & NGC Just MHO
     
  20. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    My recollection is that was the SGS fellow, but I have slept a bit since then.
     
  21. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

    +1
     
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