Toned Coin - "Monster Price"

You are probably right. However, this seller had 2 coins that looked like that (86 Liberty and 84 Olympic proofs), so I thought he/she may have perfected a "natural toning" technique.

 

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The coins look nice, but the prices look relatively low --- maybe because it is a private auctions.

Now moderators -- do these look artificial?? I can't tell. But all these coins look remarkably the same color. The ASE looks "cooked" but the others look genuine from the pics.

 

I agree, but I would phrase it a little differently: I don't care for tarnished coins.

 

Generally, which is more difficult to detect...cleaning or artificial toning?

 

is that 1812 bust a fake?

 

"I also know fo some people who can clean a coin in such a way that nobody can detect it."

I'd be willing to take that challenge.

<prepares to shoot self in foot again>

 

See there? I knew that boastful statement would be regretted


I guess they are really good but that doesn't mean than an experienced eye can't detect it. I'll bet many of us here could spot some of them...that would be a good real life challenge.

 

Could someone post pictures , side by side, of a naturally toned coin and a "cooked" coin. We amateurs would like to see how easy it is to tell the difference between the two.

Thanks.

 

Yes, the old adage says "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". I accept that others enjoy this form of corrosion on their coins, but it is not for me. It is an underdeveloped aesthetic awareness, reminiscent of first-grade wonder at rainbows. The coin deserves a discount, not a premium.

Nevertheless, does it matter if a coin came by its toning "naturally" or "artificially", whatever those terms really mean? Seems to me if you think it's beautiful, it doesn't matter how it came by its beauty. The coin itself came about by a process which is hardly natural, so why not its coloration?

 

SPEECHLESS

 

Is it wrong, flawed, immature or inferior to think that a rainbow or a rainbow toned coin is a beautiful thing to behold?

As far as the desire to know if a coin came by its toning "naturally" or "artificially", why ask why?

 

In my humble opinion if a person "tones" a coin by whatever means for profit then it is the same as cleaning the coin or misleading a buyer about a coin. They are intentionally altering the coin for profit.

Correct coins are not something that occurs naturally they are made by man but the way the coin ages due to enviromental conditions is natural and should not be altered in any way.

 

In my view, it's a naive sense of taste. I did not say it is wrong, flawed, or inferior. You could also buy colorized coins or gold plated coins. If you like them, buy them, enjoy them.

I do not suggest that anyone fail to disclose what they have when they sell a coin.

Nothing, however, makes a "naturally" toned coin inherently more valuable than an "artificially" toned coin, other than the mistaken belief that it is somehow different and should be more valuable.

 

Natural toning is not an everyday find. Because so many different factors make up the colors or degrees of colors, I can understand why premiums are paid. I do not however believe that they should be bringing many times the value of a white coin. In this day where artificial toning is used to mask problem coins, it is more important than ever to learn how to distinguish the difference.