1869 Bold N Indian Head Ebay fake?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by RedRaider, Jul 16, 2011.

  1. RedRaider

    RedRaider Well-Known Member

    Saw this auction end tonight and didnt have time to warn the seller or post here for feedback.

    Is this a counterfiet coin? I saw this has a bold "N" on the reverse and my understanding is all 1869's had a shallow N. Anyone know for sure? The poor winner (if a fake coin) probably has no clue.
     
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  3. RedRaider

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  4. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    You could call the seller and alert them. I don't think that Great Southern is known for selling fakes. Maybe they'd want to know.
     
  5. ratio411

    ratio411 Active Member

    That coin doesn't look fake to me, however, it looks too good.
    I hope it isn't fake, if it is, the counterfeiters are on top of their game.

    The sharpness and details almost look like a proof.
    That's what I mean by 'too good'... It's scary good.
     
  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Unless something changed, a bold N on an 1869 tells you it's fake.
    The bold N dies started in 1870.
     
  7. RedRaider

    RedRaider Well-Known Member

    I agree with you ratio. The coin just looks too good. This would fool 90% or more of the people out there. watch out for the fakes!!
     
  8. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    Great Southern Coins has coins that may or may not have been cleaned. Also, their pics appear to be juiced somewhat. But, having said that they have an excellent return policy.
     
  9. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Not only is the N bold but everything about that coin is way too bold. Something's not right. It's certainly not like any I've seen.
     
  10. vdbpenny1995

    vdbpenny1995 Well-Known Member

    Ive bought a few coins fom them and had a GREAT experience and they are known for selling legit, high quality coins. I dont think its a fake but if it is they can easily get a return becuase that their policy "No questions asked"
     
  11. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    *Don't know why "juiced" is showing up twice in my original post.
     
  12. RedRaider

    RedRaider Well-Known Member

    Great Souther Coins is someone I have done business with in the past, and my experience with them has been stellar. Had to return something and it was no questions asked. I do agree with their pictures looking better than coin in hand in some cases, but for the most part they are pretty accurate.

    I was surprised when I saw this up there last night.

    Read more here:

    http://www.fly-inclub.org/shallow N.htm

    There is a good explanation here, and according to Rick Snow, there are zero "Bold N" 1869 indian heads. This coin is a counterfeit for sure, and a very good one.
     
  13. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    The coin seems to not show any luster at all.
     
  14. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I would alert great souther coin to the problem. I have seen sellers post the wrong reverse for an obverse. Let me tell you I was excited since it would have been a new variety - it was still a nice coin. The two reverse matched really close.
     
  15. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    I did contact Great Southern but received no response.
     
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