Can anyone help further id this coin? I've been told it's a Spanish 8 maravedi possibly colonial Mexico but in reading up on it, the info I've found says most of the 8 Mavavedis were in Spain only. I'm trying to get a date on it and any other info such as where it might have been minted. In scouring the web the closest one I've found to it is 1604 but it wasn't exact. The only markings on this one are "VIII" and just below it appears to be the letter G with a dot on either side. Thanks...
Strangly enough I have the following one on the way 1662 Spanish colonial 8 Maravedi Philip IV Bust right Crowned shield of Castile & Leon Value/date/mint mark Y = Madrid KM171.5 When it arrives I will post a scan, from what I can gather they were made in Spain but for use in the colonies? Best person to ask is possibly Doug, he knows lots about this era (between you and I, I believe he was actualy there )
De Orc, here's one just a year off from your's 1661 Phillip IIII. Same crowned shield. Mint mark S for Seville and "R" for mintmaster. KM163.
Countermark looks like the 1641/1642 type of Philip IV. Mint is Granada(G), date unreadable. Mintmark and date are unreadable on the host coin, but I'd guess an 8 maravedis of Philip III. My understanding is that coppers were generally not used in the Colonies.
DCH, thanks for that reply. Can you explain what a countermark is and where it appears on the coin? Re the date being unreadable, I've not been able to find any trace. Would it be located on the obverse/reverse, top/bottom? Thanks.
Your coins started out looking similar to this: https://www.muenzauktion.com/mpo/item.php5?id=3358&lang=en It was later countermarked with VIII over G on one side and a Crown over Date on the other. Countermarks were used to change the value of the original coin or reaffirm the value. I don't know many of the details of this revaluation offhand, but I believe it started with older coins being revalued to a higher denomination and later they were revalued back down.
Any thoughts on this Unknown? First pic shows Roman numeral VIII stamped towards the bottom but difficult to see. Second pic is reverse side and has 1641 stamped towards the top. Third pic shows the same side rotated about 180.
Host coin unidentifiable. 1641/VIII counterstamps with a second set of stamps. Above the VIII looks like there is an 8 sideways. Below the 1641 another date, probably 1651 or 52. This coin would probably benefit from six months or so in olive oil. I think there is more detail available after proper cleaning.
Here it is after a quick bath. Not so sure now if it's VIII or VII? But the numeral 8 can be clearly seen now.
