Does anyone have photos/link on 1869 two cent piece errors?

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  1. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    I'm trying to diagnose a coin...can't find anything on the interwebs. Anyone more prepared than I am at this point? (I don't have my cherrypicker's guide)
     
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  3. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    Here's a photo - maybe someone can look it up if they have their CPG

    Here's a closeup of the date. Appreciate the help!

    1869 2 Cent - Date.jpg
     
  4. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Well most obvious is the die crack from the rim to the left to the base of the 1 across the bottom of the 186 and then down to the rim below the 9. A die chip has also formed at the bottom left of the 6. The date is also repunched with the repunching showing strongest at the top of the 1 and the 8.
     
  5. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    KF-2-TPD
    Triple Punched Date
    Looks to be a LDS & Kevin Flynn's book has it as Extremely Rare...
     
  6. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    Excellent! Thank you guys for the confirmation (I can guess all I want, but I'd prefer to confirm it with something solid.) I'll try to get a photo of the entire coin this morning...would you mind throwing a ballpark value out there once I do?

    Thanks!
     
  7. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    Here are a couple quick photos. I'm thinking somewhere between G and VG. Thoughts?

    1868-2-Cent-RPD---Reverse.jpg
    1869-2-Cent-RPD---Obverse.jpg
     
  8. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    Only values that I have are for Unc. examples, but here are some cross references that may help you.
    BR2399, KN10, FS2-5, & FL69-1o1r
     
  9. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    So, do you think this is a coin worth certifying? Does anyone here collect 2 cent error varieties and possibly wouldn't mind telling me exactly how hard this is to find and what the demand might be for it?
     
  10. 2CentRick

    2CentRick Senior Moment

    Way to go. Good cherry pick. Not an easy variety to find. To slab or not to slab? - I dont know if the plastic (slab) would bring enough extra money if you were to sell it to justify the expense.
     
  11. club5141

    club5141 New Member

    I also have an 1869 error not mentioned in flynn. There is a straight thick raised line from the one o'clock of the O in OF to the rim. Appreciate any thoughts. BTW just picked a ms63 1865 KF-P6-RPD off eBay.
     
  12. 2CentRick

    2CentRick Senior Moment

    Sounds like a die crack on the reverse of your 69. Can you post a photo?
     
  13. club5141

    club5141 New Member

    Photo of said error

    I think it is too thick for a conventional die break.
     

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  14. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    Indeed. Breen-2399, pg.240. Breen claims that he was supposedly the first to have discovered this error. But that's according to Breen. LOL.
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    "Kliman 10. Usually in low grades; see introductory text. Always with some stage of the die crack. Note traces of extra 186, evidence of use of 2 date logotypes. Discovered by this author, Oct. 9, 1954, at the New England Numismatic Association convention, Harford, Conn."


    Breen lists this error as a 'Very Rare,' or by his scale, only 13-30 known. (pg.707)

    Hope this helps.

    Cheetah
     
  15. club5141

    club5141 New Member

    My copy of Kliman is on the way. I appreciate the info. My coin will grade xf/au so I guess its a keeper.
     
  16. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    If I'm seeing what you're seeing, it looks like a die crack to me. None of my sources list an error with similar phenomena.

    It may be helpful to post a larger photo of your specimen. From the perspective here, the existing photo is difficult to inspect.
     
  17. club5141

    club5141 New Member

    Here are a couple of snaps of the "O" error I was talking about.
     

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