More fakes?

I inherited a coin collection and it came with a 1922 "no D", a 1914-D and a 1914-S. Can anyone tell from the images if any of them are real? In the 1914-S, there is some extra space between the 9 and the 1 and I think I see a remant of the top of a 4, but not sure. The 1914-D I, just don't know. The 1922, seems to have the middle 2 tinkered with. ALso there doesn't seem to be any consistance between the dies. I mean it has a little #1, a strong reverse (#2) and some #3. I sure would be appreciative. I would like to avoid paying PCGS to evaluate fakes. I don't know if the images will be adequate. I'll have to upload the 1914-S in a later post.

 

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Here's the 1914-S.

 

I think the 1922-Plain is probably fake, because real examples should have a "mushy" appearance and the details of that coin look too strong.

 

I don't see any as a fake. Ive seen PCGS graded 1922s that have this detail. It could have happened before the dies had gotten to weak. Try to get a close up shot of the area under the 1922. Your best bet would be to send it in to PCGS. It would be worth it. The others look fine but the D looks odd. Get a close up of that too if you can. If it were me Id send them all in.

 

That 14S looks like this one.http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item2eb5f3b1e8&item=200621142504&nma=true&pt=Coins_US_Individual&rt=nc&si=s1FZQlKN8KN9NwLbLLR7dyOznjo%3D. Are you the seller?

By the way i think they're all fakes.

 

All three of these coins are heavily counterfeited; the 14-S is definitely fake, and I believe the other two are also. I would recommend taking them to a coin dealer for a first-hand opinion before wasting your money on grading.

 

You might be interested in this article written by a grader at ANACS. I don't think the 22 is genuine.

http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=8032

 

All are fakes and, yes, that 14-S sure looks like the one d.t.menace cites. $15,000?!?!?! What am I missing?

 

Thank you all for your input. These coins came in coin books with dozens of others. Apparently the previous owner had bought some placeholders. I'll run them in to a dealer before grading. I've already paid the $49 PCGS membership fee but it's been well worth it. I'll save the grading fees and enjoy the PCGS calendar.

Mike

 

BTW, that same seller (http://completed.shop.ebay.com/mschlauder1/m.html?rt=nc&LH_Complete=1&_fln=1&_trksid=p3911.c0.m283) also sold a 1922- like the op pictured and sold a 1937 Buffalo for $11,100. Something weird going on here. Someone care to fill in the details?

 

Your right, something is funny here. In this snip it took, I'm am logged into my ebay account. I have never seen a green box around the word sold before in green lettering. A price in green lettering indicates I have won that ebay item. A red price indicates I have bid & lost winning that item. This just does not look right at all !!! I did not bid on any of the items in the First Snip ???


Second snip is items I did not win! Third snip is items that I did win!

 

Funny, but my view says I won the same items as you did - if you are interpreting it correctly. However, in this case, you cannot translate one page's coloring to the next. On the seller's history (or any history that I know) the green only means that the item was sold to someone.

 

Those ebay coins are mine. None sold on eBay. I have a dealer coming over to check them out. If they're fakes, they'll be stamped. If not they'll go off to PCGS for grading. Thanks for your help. This was an extremely helpful forum.

 

I think the last user bid so high on the last 2 coins (nickel and the 1914-s) to make sure he would get it. By doing that he made sure that the auction died. Glad he did too...saved me from a HUGE headache.

 

Weird huh? To the OP, before you sell fake coins, learn about coins and ask much as possible before you do someone else wrong that doesn't know. At least you came here and asked for an opinion but I sure hope you don't try selling it again without notifying that the coin is in fact a fake.

 

The 1914-D is fake, and I would say the 1922 is fake, too. Mainly because the 1922 has sharper details when legit examples usually have a mushy appearance. Plus in that grade, I've never seen a genuine 1922 looking that sharp. And the 14-D is a giveaway, that coin is far too mushy, plus the "D" is too close to the date, and that part is messed up too. And I am leaning fake on the 14-S, just because it looks weird from my eyes.

 

but the fees!?!?!?

 

Yeah, those are the same exact photos that are on ebay. And with a feedback score of 2, it feels like something fraudulent is going on here.

 

I've already said that they were my coins. Now that there is a question as to the authenticity, they will not be relisted, and there was no malicious intent driving the auction. There is no conspiracy here. I am a computer programmer living in a suburb of Phoenix in a brown track home with 4 kids. I appreciate the help but I didn't think the that users in this forum would jump so quickly to the character decisions they did. Several of you were helpful and I appreciate it but others made me feel like I shot JFK. Why on earth would I put these coins on this forum, asking the questions I did, if I was planning to relist them and scam someone?

 

Bidiots?

something bogus there.