1865 3 cent Nickel

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  1. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    This is another coin out of the collection that was with what I bought today. I never ventured into 3 cent nickels but I'm thinking VF grade what do you all think? WIN_20221216_00_57_45_Pro.jpg WIN_20221216_00_58_06_Pro.jpg
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Hey Eric! I'm at VF20 at best which makes it between $15-$20.
    What did you pay for it if you don't mind me asking? Nice decent coin overall.
     
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  4. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    It was part of a lot I bought. Paid 260 for the lot. Probably over paid a little but it's ok, maybe a push. I will post a few other coins that was in there like a 1854 with arrows seated liberty quarter probably ef condition. I will post at another time, pretty worn out from the day and it's bed time.
     
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  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I think that much of what we are seeing is a strike issue and the coin would grade higher than VF.
     
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  6. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Do you mean a possibly a "weak strike"?? Sorry, I'm still on VF20. :happy:
     
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  7. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    VF30-35, somewhere in there.
     
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  8. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Take a look at the images on CoinFacts. Also note the lack of wear on the wreath on the reverse.
     
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  9. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Striking problem.
    Yep, that was a BIG issue with the early nickel coins.
    Nickel 3-cents and nickel 5-cents.
    Took so much pressure to bring up a fully struck coin that the dies were cracking quite often.

    For the nickel 3-cent coins I try to get fully struck Roman numeral 3's.
     
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  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I am thinking it is also mostly strike. Could be as high as a 50. But net graded for the heavy marks above liberty obv.
     
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  11. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    yeah the mark above liberty hurt it, I never really dabbled in 3 cent nickels and wasn't aware of striking issues but I'm reading more into it. When I had it in hand at first without a loop I said oh wow that's gonna be a higher grade then I looked at it under a loop and seen the hit and said awe darn lol. Still a nice looking coin though.
     
  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'll add a bit more of my opinion.
    The images are great but I can't really tell much about the luster the coin may have.
    I don't know if the hits on the obverse are enough to detail the coin at one of the grading services but I would put it in my collection just as it is.
    It needs a fair amount of luster to get to AU. I'll call it 45 or 50. Just my opinion.

    These and 3 cent silvers are known for strike issues and grading gets interesting.
     
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  13. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    it has more of a dull luster I don't see any cartwheel but more of a flat color. I don't think it has been cleaned, well maybe old cleaning but I don't know how to distinguish old cleaning.
     
  14. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    The hit has no bearing on the technical grade, as it isn't wear. These are difficult to grade because they're struck different, that's true. I like the clear LIBERTY on this one, and will give up some curls for it. Depends largely on what one likes to see in these coming across.
     
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  15. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    If the piece as some mint luster left, the technical grade would be in the AU area. There are a couple of marks above the head which would have get a net grade in the EF territory.

    Here's one that is in an MS-64 holder. It's not the greatest MS-64, but as you can see, strike is an issue with these coins.

    1865 Nickel Three Cent O.jpg 1865 Nickel Three Cent R.jpg
     
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