Large Cent Noyes question

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  1. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    Hi All,

    I just picked up the Noyes. United States Large Cents, Volume 2 book and have a questions. For each variety it has on the reverse attribution points some codes, like NC-SPF-NC-C which appear to differentiate the reverse based on specific locations on the coin. But nowhere in the book are these codes explained. Can anyone help me understand what these codes mean, btw I do not have volume 1 so if it's explained there I don't have access to it.

    Thanks!
     
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  3. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    I'm not at home now but I'm pretty sure these abbreviations are defined in the early part of the book. Have you looked well through the first 20 pages or so?

    Someone else may get you a better answer, sooner, than I can.
    Lance.
     
  4. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    I have looked through it and can't find the definitions, although like I said I just have volume 2 not volume 1. so if they are only defined in volume 1 I am out of luck. If you don't mind taking a look later that would be great!
     
  5. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    Understood. I'm happy to but I'm on a weeklong business trip. If no one gets you what you want by then PM me and I'll scan the pages for you.
    Lance.
     
  6. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    Thanks for the offer, I'll let u know.
     
  7. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Well - I don't have noyes book, but in the newcomb book C stands for center, PC stands for past center. Let me just do the list but from the newcomb book:
    1 PL Past left
    2 L left
    3 NL nearly left
    4 NC nearly center
    5 C center
    6 SPC slightly past center
    7 PC past center
    8 NR nearly right
    9 R right
    10 SPR slightly past right
    11 PR past right

    Each of these numbers(1 thru 11) is in relation ship to a letter on the reverse. This list really does not do any good with out the chart in the book. You should have something like that in the front of your book describing these. Maybe this helps you find it in your book.
     
  8. PennyGuy

    PennyGuy US and CDN Copper

    The abbreviations Mark has provided refer to the leaf tip position at the letters D in UNITED, second S on STATES, the F in OF, and the C in AMERICA. The Noyes books do not have the information you are looking for.

    Aline the center dot to the center of the referenced letter and judge the deviation right or left of center of the leaf tip to help in attribution of the reverse die. Yes, I know, seems confusing, and it does take some practice.
     
  9. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    pennyguy and mark_h Thanks for the list of abbreviations and how to use them, that is what was missing from my book...
     
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