1886 V Nickel Error Value?

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by antique_angel, Jun 1, 2011.

  1. antique_angel

    antique_angel New Member

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    I cannot grade coins, but I will try... Red Book says this year nickel in AU-50 is worth $825 or MS-60 for $950. Not sure if my grading would be correct though...

    Being this is a major error, how much would it be worth?

    Also, how do dealers determine what they will pay for a coin? Do they pay like 70% or something of what Red Book says?
     
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  3. antique_angel

    antique_angel New Member

    By this I mean, what do you believe a coin shop would pay for this coin?
     
  4. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    The error may actually hurt the price on a key date !
     
  5. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Where did you get this coin? Be aware that a LOT of counterfeit "errors" like this one are coming out of China.
     
  6. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member


    Is that your coin, Angel? Pretty neat!

    The value would depend on what an error coin collector would pay. Dealers almost never pay 70% of Redbook for anything, unless they can make a quick turnaround. But your coin, which looks like an AU to me, should still be worth hundreds of dollars-- if it's real.
     
  7. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    Yep, could also be fake.....needs to slabbed if thought to be real.
     
  8. antique_angel

    antique_angel New Member

    Its actually not my coin, I was looking to possibly buy it. BUT the seller said & I quote..
    "IT HAS NOT BEEN GRADED OR AUTHENTICATED. IT WEIGHS 5 GRAMS AND HAS A NICE FINISH.
    I DO NOT BELEIVE IT IS MINT STRUCK COIN BUT MORE A COLLECTORS RESTRIKE."
     
  9. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    If it is a "collector's restrike", by law it should have the word "COPY" stamped into it.
     
  10. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Translation:

    "It is a Chinese counterfeit."
     
  11. antique_angel

    antique_angel New Member

    Alright so obviously this one probably isnt real...

    Can anyone tell me though what coin shops/dealers pay for coins? I mean, how do they go about deciding what to pay for a coin?
    Obviously all shops are different but "roughly" what percentage do they pay & what not...
     
  12. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    The dealer's buying price depends on several things, including:
    1) The condition and general collector demand for the coin
    2) Whether or not the dealer has a ready market for the coin
    3) The number of similar coins the dealer has in stock
    4) The knowledge of the seller

    Most dealers that I have sold to work with a price guide called Greysheet that they base their buy prices for collector coins on. Junk silver, on the other hand, is usually based on the spot silver price, while very common coins such as Wheaties are usually bought for a little over face.
     
  13. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

  14. antique_angel

    antique_angel New Member

  15. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    now they are making counterfeit errors??? man, they are ruining this hobby.
     
  16. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Yes they are. For at least three or four years. Major off centers. Multiple strikes. Large Cents, Half Cents, Indian Head Cents, Shield Nickels, Liberty Nickels, etc., etc., etc.
     
  17. antique_angel

    antique_angel New Member

    I don't mind so much that they're making counterfeits of their own coins... BUT LAY OFF THE U.S COINS!
     
  18. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    FWIW, if the coin had been genuine it would have been worth less than a normal 1886 I believe. Its a hard trap, and have seen it many times. Error collectors like the errors and are not concerned about the date really. Date collectors collect by date the best example they can find.

    The example I remember readily was a 1914d penny, gem uncirc, about 40% offcenter. If normally struck, back then was worth about $1000. As a 40% offstruck penny, it was worth about $50. The seller wanted HIGHER than a 1914d price since he thought the two things should have been additive, but in fact they are mutually exclusive. for years he had this coin for sale, and I admit I looked at it in his case every show, since it was cool. I think he ended up selling it for between $75 and $100. In many ways higher end coins are just like ancients, where errors do not add to value, but significantly take away value, since perfectly struck coins are what are desired.

    Chris

    P.S. Btw, I am pretty sure you can "custom order" any date or denomination error nowadays from your friendly pseudo communist. Others posting here about that are correct, and I think it makes error collecting even more risky than regular coin collecting since due to the error I believe they are a little harder to catch.
     
  19. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    Aww, and here I was thinking that coin was pretty sweet.

    It's true - if it seems too good to be true, it probably is...
     
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