Are these Real?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by jays-dad, May 13, 2011.

  1. jays-dad

    jays-dad Member

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  3. darrowcrowe

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    I bet they are cast copies. In the early 80's I metal detected one in an old park In Mt. View Ca. It was silver plated over a casting. Look for bubbles, check the edge for a seam or where a seam was that was ground off. :) They look cool!
     
  4. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Agreed... there's a ton of these "replicas" out there.
     
  5. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    Copies, I'm sure.
     
  6. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

    What are you guys basing your info off of?

    I'll research the authenticity later tonight. All are commonly forged, but nothing here makes me think "fake" right away, so I'm not going to say they "probably are".

    stainless
     
  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    We all have our own opinions based of various levels of reason. I didn't suspect them of being casts because I consider the style odd for what they purport to be and are more likely modern die pressed fakes. If there are bubbles, I suppose they could be casts from fake originals. The photos make them look rather thin in fabric. I don't like the way Diana fits on the flan but I have not researched enough to make a worthwhile pronouncement. The Judean looks particularly coarse. If these coins were good, they would be worth several thousand dollars and the place to have them expertized is not on an amateur online forum like this but by a genuine expert in the business of trading in high end coins. Not knowing where they came from but judging from what I see, I would say none have enough chance of being good that I would spend the postage mailing them in for certification. It is always possible to be fooled by photos and my collection level does not allow me frequent handling of any of these.

    I'm back to the old tough love song: If you buy a $1000 coin for $100; you get what you deserve. If you buy a $1000 coin from a dealer that does not know more about these than I do so you feel the need to ask here; you get what you deserve. If you inherited such coins from a grandpa who didn't tell you they were worth money.... None of us like to act too certain and later be proven wrong but I agree with Siberian Man.
     
  8. jays-dad

    jays-dad Member

    I got these in a junk box, however, this is a REALLY GOOD junk box. This box had so many other things that were unquestionable, including a silver ounce, a whole lot of silver stuff, several Roman that seem beyond question, as well as a ton of other great stuff. I know the seller VERY well, he just throws in whatever gets sold to him. I find a lot of proof in these mixes, more silver than I can sneeze at, etc. However, that being said, I also find some slimy junk in there, game tokens, Canadian cents, etc.
     
  9. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

    1. Edges on reverse too fine - fake
    2. Styles off - fake
    3. style - fake

    However, they may be real silver.

    stainless
     
  10. Texas John

    Texas John Collector of oddments

    Three ancient coins with different origins and different histories seldom all have the same luster.

    To me, they look like they were made at the same place at roughly the same time.
     
  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?search=similar%3A51420&view_mode=1#0

    That is what I would call a good junk box. The real ones listed above seem to range from $600 to $2000. What does spot have to hit to make you melt a 10 g. silver coin that auctions for $2000?

    I had never noted this but an awfully lot of these coins show Artemis shooting her bow with the arrow way too high on the string. Perhaps goddesses don't have to worry about laws of physics?
     
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