1916 Standing Liberty Quarter

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by eledford21, May 11, 2011.

  1. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    the date looks funny. pass on that coin.
     
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  3. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    People who have coins like these know what they are worth. Sometimes, people need fast money and sell them cheap...but there is a difference between cheap and suspicious. How much does the person want for the coin?
     
  4. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

  5. swhuck

    swhuck Junior Member

    The first three digits are much more strongly worn than the 6. A wear pattern that inconsistent would be a red flag even if the 6 looked right, but as others have said the 6 looks all wrong. Pass.
     
  6. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Yep... the six is all wrong, as is the rest of the "coin".
     
  7. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    Run away far away not even close to genuine
     
  8. USMoneylover

    USMoneylover Active Member

    The best thing you can do is forget you ever saw that one...Don't even put another ounce of energy into the thought of buying it :D
     
  9. zach24

    zach24 DNSO 7070 71 pct complete

    *Sirens blairing*

    "FAKE ALERT!!!!!"

    Seiuosly though that is the worst counterfeit SLQ I've ever seen!!!
     
  10. eledford21

    eledford21 New Member

    He originally wanted $1500. I talked him down to $1000 just for the heck of it before meeting up. He said he was given it as a payment on money he was owed - not a collector himself. I had a feeling it would be fake so made sure to do my homework before putting down that much cash. One can always dream though of getting such a deal :p
     
  11. Coinguy56

    Coinguy56 Member

    Well I'm glad you passed, it's not fun getting burned, I've been in those shoes. But, there's good people on this forum that'll (try) to see if it's legit, given you have good enough pictures.
     
  12. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    Agree. Looks like a cast counterfeit. Check for raised dots on the surface.
    Lance.
     
  13. dingodonkey

    dingodonkey Junior Member

    (1) The date is wrong
    (2) The drapery is slightly off
    (3) The surfaces look like those I've seen on many Chinese knockoffs

    I think it's always worthwhile looking into these long-shot deals, even if they usually turn out to be fake. I'm glad you asked here before putting down serious money. Some people will say any great-looking rare coin not in a slab is fake, but this one really is. If I weren't sure, I wouldn't give you bad advice costing you thousands of dollars in upside.
     
  14. eledford21

    eledford21 New Member

    Thanks for all the great feedback. You all saved me a lot of money. Sadly, I think he will try to to sell it to someone else.
     
  15. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    You're absolutely right about the date-- it is, indeed, "completely wrong". The 9 and 6 are particularly bad.
     
  16. acloco

    acloco New Member

    Might remind him it is a felony to sell fake US money. Give him 20 bucks for the token and call it a day.
     
  17. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Easiest way to check if it's an altered 1917 is to look at the hair , on the '16 it will have one distinct hair strands sticking up at the back of the head , on a '17 there will be two distinct strands , there's other markers but that's the easiest to see even on low gradepieces .
     
  18. RaceBannon

    RaceBannon Member

    Chinese fake. Porous surface, artificially enhanced toning, none of the diagnostics match up. It looks like the work of "jingshuashuei" a Chinese seller who was selling these on eBay for two bucks a pop for years before they shut him down. He sold these and other high dollar key dates as copies. Problem was they weren't stamped with "copy" or "replica" as required by U.S. law.

    Now I think he's just selling under a different name. And the market is absolutely saturated with these fakes. Buyer beware!
     
  19. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    99% sure it a copy.the coloring is just off as is hole coin.but is a China fake I not sure but I know when I was a kid in the 50-60's you could buy copy's of the 1916 STLQ without copy stamped on it, here a real 17-P that may help?.
    http://www.slqcoins.us/1917coins/1917P1PCGS55FHP6644.htm
     
  20. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    That date looks all sorts of funky.
     
  21. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Rev too Dutch! star are to far off too.
    :kewl:the hole coin just looks odd for a 1916-17 SLQ type#1 to me!
     
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