Which of these was body bagged by PCGS and why?

I started to make this a poll but there were too many possibilities. So let's make it less structured.

At least one of these was body-bagged by PCGS, and at least one graded cleanly.

The question is...which coin(s) were guillotined? If you'd like to guess why, go for it!

Don't feel any pressure to guess right. TPG grading can be a crap-shoot.

Lance.

 

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Indian cent

 

Just gonna give it a shot......The Indian head and the Peace dollar were cleaned. I'm guessing the Peace was over dipped.

But.... Maybe the 1895 Barber is AT?

Just throw'n it out there.

 

i guess that the indian head cent (cleaned), barber quarter (at), and peace dollar (cleaned) were bagged.

 

I was going to add the Peace as cleaned, but I thought the cent look like it was whizzed

 

Peace looks dipped and the indian looks cleaned.

 

I think the Twenty Cent piece graded.

 

IMO, the 1809 50c and 1921 Peace S$1 are obviously cleaned. Personally, I like the 1895 25c but PCGS has decided to bag nice toned coins as AT so it's impossible to tell.

 

The half has been cleaned, but the question is whether or not it got graded. Don't know much about them, but I will guess it slabbed.
Love that Indian. No problems
With colors like that, there is no assurance what they did with the quarter and 20¢. I see no reason not to slab.
The peace has been whizzed and was bagged.

 

Half is "processed" can't put my finger on it.
Indian head "recolored" as it looks good but for the darker areas pooled up in the corners.
Barber "artificial toning" because of the flaked off areas. If that coin was dipped and not rinsed of correctly, then allowed to re-tone, it might flake off like that.
20C piece looks good to me.
Peace is "polished".


You are right that it is a crap shoot. The Indian cent could be good and the pictures just aren't telling enough on copper like that. JMO

 

The Half does'nt look quite right to me, Indian has questionable color/ cleaning, I think the barber is fine ( I think I've seen it before ) Peace is cleaned /polished, and this one is probably a bigger shot in the dark than everything else, 20 cent is Questionable Color.

 

Half- X (cleaned)
Indian- YES
Barber- X (AT)
20 cent- YES
Peace- X (cleaned)

 

The Half and peace bagged for cleaning

 

I'm going to say the Peace Dollar was body bagged as cleaned and the Barber Quarter was body bagged as AT. I also think the Capped Bust Half has an old cleaning...but it doesn't detract from the coin and this is extremely common for this series so the coin was likely slabbed. I think both the Indian and the 20 cent were slabbed.

 

Bust Half - AU55
Indian - Details "recolored" if not 64
Barber - Details "recolored"
20 cent - not sure what that is on the obv in front and back of the seated lady. I'll guess it's MS62
Peace - Polished

 

I'll say,

The Barber was bagged as AT
The Peace was bagged as cleaned
I'm iffy on the 20c
Everything else looks good to me.

 

Pure guesses, I don't collect these:

Half - old cleaning, retoned.... still an amazing coin
IHC -NICE! Should be slabbed unless they didn't like the color, looks like a 65 or better to me.
Quarter - NICE! The toning on the rim makes it look suspect, they may have bagged for uneven color progression, even though I think it's market acceptable.
20c - NICE! Can't tell how deep the obv field hits are, might be bagged as damaged?
Peace - whizzed

 

Only the IHC graded with no problems. All others were bagged as cleaned, except the Barber which was bagged as AT. TC

 

Really? Only the IHC? I don't know what it looks like in-hand, and I know a woodgrain finish isn't too uncommon on coppers, but it just looks too much like a Buffalo nickel that's soaked too long in vinegar -- I would've been too skittish to go for it.

I would have tagged the Peace dollar as cleaned, based the darker colors appearing only in the deepest parts of the design (the parts that are hardest to clean/polish). I could be seeing artifacts of the lighting, though, so not 100% confident.

The Barber looks entirely NT to me, but as I've said many times before, the AT/NT distinction is itself completely artificial. If TPGs are too skittish now to slab colorful coins, it's just something that they and the toner fans will have to work out among themselves.

Haven't studied enough Bust and Seated coins to form an opinion. The flow patterns on the Bust are pretty psychedelic.