Hard Times Token HELP

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by acan451, May 5, 2011.

  1. acan451

    acan451 Sample Slab Collector

    Hi
    It's my first time buying this type of coin
    All comments welcome.
    Price, condition whatever
    Thanks
    Alan

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  3. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    It's a nice common design but someone has applied darkener to it and that's not a good thing normally speaking. I wouldn't pay more than a meager price for that token. In other words, and if you got it off ebay. Read the listing carefully, if the seller never mentioned anything about darkener, I forget the name of the darkener, send it back if you can. If not, then you learned a lesson, jmho.
     
  4. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    Dellers darkner

    Did you notice that defense is misspelled? It is one of the varieties
     
  5. acan451

    acan451 Sample Slab Collector

    Would $10.00 be to much pay for this coin
    Thanks
    Alan
     
  6. acan451

    acan451 Sample Slab Collector

    Hi
    I am not sure what the misspelling of defense
    would mean
    Thanks
    Alan
     
  7. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Actually I think that's the way the word was spelled back in that timeframe but that's just a guess. As far as $10 being too much, no I don't think it's too much at all. I have one of those and they're really cool looking tokens. :D

    Yes, the name of the darkener is Deller's and many ppl use it. There's nothing wrong with it but the majority of collectors will not buy tokens that have had it applied to them. just a heads up! :thumb:
     
  8. acan451

    acan451 Sample Slab Collector

    Thanks so much, That's why I love Thea's forms.
    People like yourself are kind enough to take the time to help people like me
    with little or no knowledge. And you do it willingly and without compensation.
    Just because you care enough about the hobby and the new people trying to learn.
    Now ppl ? that is a new one for me
    Thanks again
    Alan
     
  9. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    Fretboard, I didn't have may [SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=4][COLOR=#0000ff][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000]Rulau[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE] handy but I thought I read in this one of these sites that it was a variety when I posted that. But alas I went to look for it and now cannot find it

    http://acdwyer.com/millions_pg1.aspx

    http://www.hardtimestokens.com/LibertyNotOneCent.html
     
  10. acan451

    acan451 Sample Slab Collector

    Hi Fretboard
    I just talked to the seller and he says it has never been darkened since he owned it.
    And in his opinion it has never been.
    I was wondering could it be the lighting?
    I know coins look so much different in the hand than a photo.
    I have bough coins in the past thinking OK not bad, and when I get them I am saying
    way better than I though.
    Alan
     
  11. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Alrighty then, maybe it's been in a fire.:eek: I don't know but that token just don't look right to me and if you just hold off a bit you can get a better one. One thing to keep in mind about buying tokens is the sale is usually driven by trends and that's true especially on ebay. Wait and get a better one, that's what I'd do.;) Incidentally, this is mine. I know it's different than yours but at least you can get an idea of how they should look. good luck!!
     

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  12. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    People were spelling it both ways back then, based on either Samuel Johnson's British English dictionary (defence), or Noah Webster's new (1828) American English dictionary (defense). Since Webster's dictionary became the standard reference for American spellings, his spelling is what was ultimately adopted in the US.
     
  13. tim66

    tim66 New Member

    this is the same token as yours although not the best grade but it is a good idea to what a normal aged collar is the large cent is not intended for this its just in the pic with it 031.jpg its the one on the left
     
  14. acan451

    acan451 Sample Slab Collector

    Thanks
    Everyone
    I think I will wait for a better coin.
    Thanks again
    Alan
     
  15. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I'd happily pay $10 for it.
     
  16. midas1

    midas1 Exalted Member

    Nice token "tribute" is spelled "tribut" on the token.
    I'd pay ten bucks for it but I buy mainly what I like regardless.
     
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