Fake Fugio

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by IQless1, May 5, 2011.

  1. IQless1

    IQless1 What became of subtlety**

    A friend gave this to me years ago, after informing him that it wasn't a real coin. I thought I'd post and see if anyone else has similar "tokens" or whatever you'd call this. The "coin" appears to be cast, made of what might be pewter or some kind of iron. I'm pretty sure "copy" was scratched off (1st photo). It's about the size of a half-dollar. Anyone have info on this?
     

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  3. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    OMG. You have the original pattern coin that was given to Ben Franklin to bring to North America for George & Martha Washington’s approval! It originally stated "Ben’s Fugio" on the obverse and Mr. Franklin scratched out the “Ben” part during the voyage to America. Of course, I just made up the story.

    I think you are correct. Somebody scratched-out the word COPY. It may have been one of the many copies made during the 1976 bicentennial. Let’s see what others might know about the piece.
     
  4. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    looks like an alien octopus about to eat the sundial.
     
  5. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    I put on my tinfoil hat so I hope I'm safe
     
  6. IQless1

    IQless1 What became of subtlety**

    Yeah, this is the kind of info I'm looking for.
     
  7. IQless1

    IQless1 What became of subtlety**

    Not helpful.
     
  8. IQless1

    IQless1 What became of subtlety**

    Not helpful.
     
  9. bruce m

    bruce m New Member

    reminds me of my first car
     
  10. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    I have a cast whitish type metal fakieo too. Watching this thread for further info.
     
  11. IQless1

    IQless1 What became of subtlety**

    Irrelevant lol
     
  12. IQless1

    IQless1 What became of subtlety**

    Good to hear, I was hoping others may have some. Not much luck on info yet, but it's early. One good piece of info vs 3 not even relevant ... I'd say average for in here lol
     
  13. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    pics
     

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  14. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    For a while, the old Gallery Mint Museum was producing Fugio cent reproductions with old-style coin presses, but their products were excellent and the word COPY was incused so deep into the design that one would have to dig a trench in the coin to obliterate it.

    Another possibility, especially if it is cast, is that it may have been sold as a souvenir piece at one of the various historical parks or villages in the East and Northeast, such as Old Sturbridge Village in Massachusetts, Colonial Williamsburg in Virginia, and so on. I have a cast copy of a LIMA shilling that I bought at the gift shop at Old Sturbridge Village many years ago, and while the little information sheet said the reproduction carried the world COPY, I never found it.
     
  15. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    It is a fake Continental dollar not a Fugio. I am not sure it had "copy" removed. To the left of the date is an "R" for replica, to have both the R and copy would be redundant. The Continental dollar has to be one of the most copied coins of all time, almost impossible to say when or by who it was made.
     
  16. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    You are right-- it's a fake Continental Dollar. It shares a common reverse with the Fugio, and the copper color is confusing. And they both have sundials on the obverse.

    It's time to go brush up on my pre-1793 coinage.
     
  17. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Yeah, the copper color, this one is kind of neat, not the usual gray bubbly pot metal look of the usual souvenir copies. Would be interesting to find more info on it.
     
  18. abe

    abe LaminatedLincolnCollector

    Here is a Bar Cent with the word "copy" on it.
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  19. IQless1

    IQless1 What became of subtlety**

    Thanks! The scratching is only on the surface, and appears to be cast, so the 1st possibility can be ruled out. I appreciate the info!
     
  20. IQless1

    IQless1 What became of subtlety**

    Thank you for the info. I had considered putting something like "Fake Continental Currency/Fugio" as a title but decided on leaving out the CC part. I assumed it might be called that (on coin sites/by experts) but figured someone would come and give me the correct term eventually.

    I was wondering myself about the possibility of "copy" not being on it, but the scratch suggested something was there though, and "copy" would be a logical guess. Thanks for correcting me!
     
  21. IQless1

    IQless1 What became of subtlety**

    I knew this wasn't something most people would be generally interested in, but I'm glad I posted. The fact that this has lead to you wanting to brush up on pre-1793 issues is cool. Thanks for viewing.
     
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