Couple questions about designations. Are the designations "red/rb/brown" only for Indian and Lincoln cents? Or are these used for large cents, two cent pieces, etc.? What is FH mean in regards to a SLQ? What else am I missing here for both PCGS and NGC?: cents: brown red/brown red Jefferson Nickels 5 fs 5.5 fs 6 fs Standing Liberty Quarters FH Franklin Halves FBL Mercury Dimes FSB Roosevelt FB Morgan Dollars pl dmpl Thank you for any help. -g
Hi Clinker, I know what they mean (except for FH, so thanks!) , I am wondering if I am missing any...
Ok great. Just to be clear then. A Franklin (for example) can get a grade such as: MS66 FBL UCAM ? I also see that NGC is more strict on Rosies. FT instead of FB.
No, but proof Frankie can get the UCAM but not an FBL. With moderns, the terms only apply to Proofs. With older coins the terms can apply to Proofs and business strikes. FT is a completely different designation than FB. It's kind of like it is with Mercs when it comes to the difference between NGC and PCGS. They both use FSB, but NGC hasd completely different requirements than PCGS does. NGC requires all 3 bands be full and split, PCGS only requires the center band be full and split. With Rosies, PCGS again only requires the bands be full and split. NGC requires the bands be full and split and the torch details be complete.
Awesome. One final question. Is there a specific year that coins are considered modern as opposed to 'older'? Or does it vary from denomination?
No. But there are lots of opinions. BTW, color designations for copper are generally reserved for MS coins but every now and then you see an exception on an XF or AU. Weird. Lance.
Agreed. The delineation can also vary depending on the coins or the subject being discussed. For example, ancient colletors might consider anything minted after 400 AD as being modern. Others might say the line comes in 1643 when milled coinage (as opposed to hammered) came into use. When discussing US coins there are two typical break points. One occurs with the advent of the Lincoln cent in 1909, the Buff in 1913, and the dime, quarter and half in 1916; and the other (more common) occurs with the advent of clad coinage in 1965.
Did anyone mention UDMPL - Ultra Deep Mirror Prooflike? SMS - Special Mint Set? SF - Satin Finish? What about FAEP? Full Album Empty Pockets! Chris
