Calling all mint detectives

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by eddiespin, Mar 6, 2006.

  1. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I just want to know what happened here so I can label this coin right. I hadn’t asked this question until now because I don’t have a camera and I’m going to have to rely on your ability to fill in the blanks on these lousy scanned images and my description. The best I can describe it is it looks like a fault line opened up on the top of Roosevelt's head. It’s not a die crack as it’s not embossed and it’s not a scratch and you’ll just have to trust me and my 5X glass on that one (hey, how good is my credit around here? :D). I’d just like to know what happened as I suspect this is something in the minting process before the coin had cooled. It’s like it was struck and then this fault line somehow opened up. Any ideas, anyone seen this before? I suppose you’d have to be more familiar with the minting process than any of us would ever care to be (and of course please take that as the sincerest form of compliment) to have any kind of answer, here, but I’ll take guesses, too, anything, and if you need more description, please just ask. This one has been bugging me for quite some time. Thanks.
     

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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The pics are pretty small eddie, it would help immensely if you save them in a larger size. But based on your description and from I can see I'd guess that it's a lamination error.
     
  4. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    If these old eyes don't deceive me, it's a 1964 which argues against the lamination theory, since cladding started in 1965.[​IMG]
     
  5. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I tried to make them larger but the attackments wouldn't take (they kept going over the limit for attachments and as such were rejected). This is really the best I can do. GD, I'm going to look up lamination, I think that's what this is, some kind of cracking in the lamination they put on these coins. I'm just not that familiar with the process, so I never thought of that. You're a real bloodhound, though. :) Mucho thanks.
     
  6. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    difficult to tell but could almost be a post Mint situation. You just got to get a digital camera. the whole world will have them in a few more weeks. You don't need a great one or an expensive one to take pictures of coins. Just a Macro feature. They are really getting cheap. One guy just gave me a Nikon Coolpix 600 for free. Old ones like that are becoming dinasaurs already.
     
  7. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Try saving your pictures as JPEGs instead of BMPs. That will significantly reduce the file size.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    It doesn't have anything to do with that Roy. Lamination errors are common on silver coins. They even occur on copper and also gold occasionally. It's a planchet defect.
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Tell ya what, you make 'em larger - then just email 'em to me. I'll take it from there ;)

    gdjmsp@qwest.net
     
  10. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Well, today has been a success. I learned something new. :thumb:
     
  11. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I temporized on this question for the very reason that I knew I couldn't give you guys good pictures because I didn't have a digital camera. But you want to know the truth, Carl, I don't even know what a macro is. I mean it it doesn't come on Brownie Starmite II, forget about it. But I'll get a digital camera sooner or later, I'm working on it...
     
  12. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    OK. These are the first files I ever uploaded and I didn't know that. If I can get a better picture out of these in JPEG I'll post them. Thanks.
     
  13. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll


    My grandmother died a few years back and I "inherited" (read: salvaged from the massive house cleaning and garbage removal effort) a couple of old Kordak Brownie cameras. I was born long after those things ceased to be used and I was intrigued with the completely mechanical operation! I'd never seen (or even considered such a thing), they are one of the few physical memories of her. I can't imagine that they are worth much, but I will be keeping them.
     
  14. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Just an update, here, and I'll post those pics to Error Coins once I finally break down and get that digital camera. This was caused by a string of some kind stuck to the die or lying across the coin when the coin was pressed, and when the die was lifted, the string was lifted with it, tearing the fissure across the coin and leaving a small deposit of residual alloy in the corner of the coin, at the end of tear. I know you all can't see this from the small scanned images, but you did give me enough key words to research the issue, and I appreciate that. This would be a strike through on the lamination of the coin wherein the foreign object was simply a piece of string or thread or bristle of some kind. So, thanks, again. Hey, feeling like Sherlock Holmes... :)
     
  15. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    I use a Coolpix 775 which has zoom but no macro.At the time (4 years ago) it was one of the best and cost $350.I grimace when I think what I could get for that $ now,but that's progress.It seems to work great if you use the right settings and then just reduce the pics to as close to 100KB as possible.
     
  16. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Well as long as I started this here I figured I'd better finish it here. Tell you one thing, these Canon PowerShots are a vast improvement over the Brownie Starmite IIs. :) So...opinions??? Thx again...
     

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